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The Restitution Of All Things

FineLinen

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There is a Divine equation that directs us to the scope of limited regarding the loss and the recovery of mankind.

"The conclusion is clear: if one offence condemns the entire human race; then in principle, the righteousness of one vindicates the entire human race. The disobedience of one exhibits mankind as sinners; the obedience of another exhibits mankind as righteous." ~The Mirror Bible

What Does Romans 5:19 Mean? "For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the one shall the many be made righteous."

Kathistemi =

To cause to be/ to exhibit'

We were not made sinners by our own disobedience; neither were we made righteous by our own obedience.
 
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FineLinen

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Carry off in Himself

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The Last Adam takes away the sin of the world. The entire world, lock stock and barrel are heading for reconciliation, not part of the world, the radical all of pas!

Both Adam's are figureheads. The first Adam failed, the Last Adam prevailed in exquisite dimensions of "all the more".

The all the more triumphant Lord of the universe speaks of being the light in John. That light is ginomai and leads to us becoming light just like Him. Becoming sons of light means to echo with resonance the Last Adam by being made in the action of becoming.

Takes away = airō =

To take upon one's self and carry away.

To bear away & carry off.

To remove.

Cause to cease.
 

FineLinen

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Which plan?

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Plan A or plan b minus?

"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me."

plan b-

If I be lifted up from the earth I will draw some of mankind unto Myself.

I will drag off with power some of mankind.

I will try to lead off some of mankind, but will fail.

"As in Adam all die, so in Christ shall all be made alive"

plan b-

Some have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God...

plan b minus =

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon some men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon some men unto justification of life.

Does all mean all?
 

FineLinen

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FineLinen

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"For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it."

The road into our God is in the realm of losing. He calls to us from the depths of His being, & in that calling an awakening transpires as He tunes us to His overtures. The apostle Paul speaks of the mandate of his ministry is for everyone's heart to be awakened to their true identity intertwined in loves tapestry.

In the parakaleo, we are brought into close proximity suggesting a union of place and residence. The call of ABBA is to follow Him withersoever He goes. Let us go out to meet Him where He dwells.
 

FineLinen

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My belief and hope are one -on the attributes of God as admitted by all Christians.

Infinite wisdom knows the end from the beginning, and will not in the beginning create what will defeat the end. Infinite power is able to control all things toward a desired end. Infinite love, as expressed in the words " Our Father," will do the best for its children. What shall we say of the attribute of justice ? No attribute has been so belittled as this. We once heard that since man's sin was infinite, justice demanded infinite punishment; now it is changed to the statement, if men sin endlessly, justice demands they be punished endlessly. Both these statements are an abortion, a caricature of justice. No finite man can commit an infinite sin. If any man sin endlessly, justice cannot be satisfied, but only endlessly thwarted. Justice demands obedience to just law. It is never satisfied with less. As God is a just God, so nothing is ever settled until it is settled right. There are other attributes. "God is a consuming fire." His wrath and anger are spoken of. These attributes express the Divine hand raised against sin. If the Divine hand is raised against sin one must yield, and I don't believe it is the Divine hand. God is a consuming fire, not a fire burning forever in empty rage. He consumes man as the refiner's fire does the ore, burning the dross and bringing forth the good, as gold tried by fire.

I base my hope on the office and character of Jesus Christ.

I see in his life no clumsy mechanical device of vicarious atonement. He did not shed blood to appease an angry Deity. The Deity does not want blood, He wants obedience. The life, and teachings, and death of Jesus are the supreme appeal to all mankind, "Be ye reconciled to God." God never needed to be reconciled to them, save in some such sense as any loving father might feel a barrier between himself and a prodigal son. Blood cannot remove it. Only the son coming back penitent can. The character and purpose of Jesus are most comprehensively stated in the parables of " The lost sheep," " The lost piece of silver," " The prodigal son." The final declaration of his purpose he told when he declared, " I, if I be lifted up, will draw all men unto me." The completion of this purpose, man's rebellion may delay but cannot disappoint or annul.

I base my hope on the trend of Scripture. It is well known that a comparatively small portion of Scripture bears on this immortal life and the great end of our course. Conduct is three-fourths of life. This present life is the great pressing concern. A very large portion of the Old Testament dwells on righteousness and its earthly temporal rewards or sin with its temporal punishments. The New Testament is a great appeal to men to build character, seek eternal life, and "now is the accepted time." A solemn reserve is thrown over the future life; the great emphasis is on the present time. This is precisely as it should be. Not a few threats of judgment and promises of joy have been stupidly and persistently thrust over there which belong here. ~P.T. Barnum
 

FineLinen

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God's Lost & Found

When the Scripture uses a word such as perish or destroy, the original word is apollumi. The koine Greek word apollumi means to lose, or to be lost. It is the same word Jesus used when He said "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel" (Matthew 15:24). and "Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep (Luke 15:4-7).

The word, apollumi, is used to describe a sheep which was lost and then was found and restored.

Christ uses this same exact word in the following verse, "Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matthew 10:28-29). (The word translated as "Hell" in this verse is actually gehenna, the city dump outside of Jerusalem)


The original koine for destroy here is apollumi which means to lose or be lost. This verse is not speaking of an eternal annihilation of a soul, but of a temporary losing of the soul, just like the lost sheep that was later found. It is the same with all the times you see Jesus speaking of someone perishing, such as in John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

A better translation would be whoever believes in Him should not be lost. We are all lost until God finds us. Those who die yet unbelieving will experience further apollumi, or being lost in the Lake of Fire, which is the second death. But God has promised to destroy all death once and for all and grant belief to all at the consummation of the ages.

If apollumi meant destruction according to the traditional definition by those who believe in eternal torment or annihilation, then Jesus is lost forever, "But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the multitudes that they should ask for Barabbas and destroy (apollumi) Jesus." Matt. 27:20

So then, will you hold to the "traditional" view which makes the word of God of no effect? Or will you have the courage to go against the traditional hell-fire or annihilation view which denigrates the glorious victory Jesus bought through conquering death on the Cross for all mankind? Those who are lost? or perished, are like the lost sheep. The lost sheep was perished, but the shepherd sought it out and restored it. We are all like the lost sheep before God finds us. Even now we are. We are all apollumi, or lost and perished as the lost sheep was. We are separated and alienated from God. But the lost sheep did not stay that way. And neither does anyone else.

The Good Shepherd does not stop looking until He has found the last one.
 

FineLinen

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What is damnation?

Damnation = krima = Judgment / condemnation of wrong.

Decision (severe or mild).

Sentence of judge.

Greater = perissos

Matt. 23:14...Mark 12:40....Luke 20:47

Compare translations.

RSV = greater condemnation

Holman = harsher punishment

Douey- Rheims = greater judgment

ISV =greater condemnation

Literal standard = more abundant judgment

YLT = abundant judgment

Worsley = heavier judgment
 

FineLinen

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He is the conclusion

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What a glorious conclusion our Father ABBA has designed within Himself!

The Last Adam leads all those made sinners to be made righteous. Polus = polus with "all the more" added to our triumphant Saviour. "

This is how we fit into God's picture: Christ is the measure of our portion, we are in Him. God's blueprint intention is on exhibition in us. Everything He accomplishes is inspired by the energy and intent of His affection." ~The Mirror Bible

Romans 8:29 = "He engineered us from the start to fit the mold of sonship and likeness according to the exact blueprint of His design. We are the original and intended shape of our lives preserved in His Son; He is firstborn from the womb that reveals our genesis. He confirms we are the invention of God." ~TMB
 

FineLinen

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Kingdom Bible Studies

J. Preston Eby

Prayer is helplessness casting itself upon power; it is misery seeking peace; it is unholiness embracing purity; it is hatred desiring love. Prayer is corruption panting for immortality; it is the eagle soaring heavenward; it is the dove returning home; it is the prisoner pleading for release; it is the mariner steering for the haven amid the dangerous storm; it is the soul, oppressed by the world, escaping to the empyrean, and bathing its ruffled plumes in the ethereal and the divine. J. Preston Eby
 

FineLinen

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FineLinen

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Gelassenheit =

The Lost Art of Listening and “Lassening” to God

We are all Daniels in various lions’ dens of difficulties, but God is in the center of them all waiting for our faith to “let” His glory shut every lion’s mouth. GELASSENHEIT knows that the seed of Christ is pulsating at the center of every circumstance we face, waiting to be activated by our faith’s perception of Him. As we perceive the Lord’s imbedded presence in all events and circumstances, we are then able to help harvest that presence to sprout blessing, power and love into the current need.

John Wesley believed that God’s delivering presence had to be catalyzed by the prayer of faith before He could openly manifest upon the earth.

However, the prayer of faith is not accomplished by the “willpower” of men but rather by the “willingness” of GELASSENHEIT.

This concept is really just another word for meekness. But this is not mousy meekness as it has been taught in Sunday School lessons about being “good little boys and girls.” No, this meekness is virile, brave and unflappable. It is “gutsy abandonment” to “robustly yield” every fiber of our being to God. It is the type of muscular meekness which Jesus said would inherit the world. We are all Daniels in various lions’ dens of difficulties, but God is in the center of them all waiting for our faith to “let” His glory shut every lion’s mouth.

GELASSENHEIT knows that the seed of Christ is pulsating at the center of every circumstance we face, waiting to be activated by our faith’s perception of Him.

As we perceive the Lord’s imbedded presence in all events and circumstances, we are then able to help harvest that presence to sprout blessing, power and love into the current need.

John Wesley believed that God’s delivering presence had to be catalyzed by the prayer of faith before He could openly manifest upon the earth. However, the prayer of faith is not accomplished by the “willpower” of men but rather by the “willingness” of GELASSENHEIT.

This concept is really just another word for meekness.

This is not mousy meekness as it has been taught in Sunday School lessons about being “good little boys and girls.” No, this meekness is virile, brave and unflappable. It is “gutsy abandonment” to “robustly yield” every fiber of our being to God. It is the type of muscular meekness which Jesus said would inherit the world.
 

FineLinen

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FineLinen

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Magnificent Overflow

The Master of the Glory does all things well. He clears the air of the human condition, the disordered mess of struggling humanity to set it right once & for all.

The band-aid of the Law has been swallowed by the Spirit of the living & breathing God.

Our Father Abba = magnificent overflow.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...08&version=MSG

"The whole of created life shall be delivered/ set free from the tyranny of change and decay..."

The Letter to the Romans is a masterpiece that speaks to us of a Day of all days when the futility of change and decay ceases with deliverance by the One who has made us subject to disobedience "not willingly", but "by reason of Him who made it so .

The curse of sin has its limits, ultimately to be swallowed by the Lord of zao life.

"No more let sin and sorrow grow, or thorns infest the ground, He comes to make His blessings flow.....

Far as the curse is found!

Yes, Isaac Watts wrote over 750 hymns, and was a believer in the glorious Restitution of all things.


 

FineLinen

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The dogma of endless evil

The view of eternal torment is a ghastly presentation of the character of the One who is love incarnate. Most men do not realize its true bearing, or the light in which it really presents the character of God.

Consider how this dogma of endless evil must strike an inquirer after God, one outside the pale of Christianity, but sincerely desirous of learning the truth.

There are such individuals. You tell this inquirer that God is not Almighty only, but all good; that God is indeed love; that God is his Father. But these terms are words without any justification at all, if they have not their common ordinary sense when applied to our God.

 

FineLinen

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Colossians 1:20

"God purposed through Him to reconcile the universe to Himself, making peace through His blood, which was shed upon the Cross to reconcile to Himself through Him, I say, things on earth and things in Heaven."

He initiated the reconciliation of all things to himself. Through the blood of the cross God restored the original harmony. His reign of peace now extends to every visible thing upon the earth as well as those invisible things which are in the heavenly realm. -TMB

***The heavens, ouranos, a place of elevation, from oros, a mountain, from airo, to lift, to raise, to elevate.

“Not only that, but all the broken and dislocated pieces of the universe, people and things, animals and atoms, get properly fixed and fit together in vibrant harmonies, all because of his death.” — MSG

 
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FineLinen

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The equation is absolutely equal on both sides. polys = polys = polys = polys.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/roma...9-compare.html

"The conclusion is clear: it took just one offense to condemn mankind; one act of righteousness declares the same mankind innocent. The disobedience of the one man exhibits humanity as sinners; the obedience of another man exhibits humanity as righteous. TMB"

“We see then, that as one act of sin exposed the whole race of men to condemnation, so one act of perfect righteousness presents all men freely acquitted in the sight of God!” J.B. Phillips

kathistemi = To cause to be, to set up, to exhibit.

We were not made sinners by our own disobedience; neither were we made righteous by our own obedience.
 

FineLinen

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To him who has ears to hear.

The koine akouō points to an endowment of hearing. Out of that God given akouō comes understanding and perception.

In the Revelation, 2:11 & 2:17 & 2:29 each instance uses the koine akouō.

Endued with the faculty of hearing.

Not deaf.

To attend & consider.

To understand & perceive.

"Are your ears awake? Listen. Listen to the Wind Words, the Spirit blowing through the churches.” ~MSG
 

FineLinen

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The God of Restoration

We all must die, and are like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again; but God does not take away life, but devises waysfor the banished to not be expelled from Him. -2 Samuel 14:14

For we must needs die, and are as water split on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again; neither doth God take away life, but deviseth means, that he that is banished be not an outcast from him. -ASV

For death comes to us all, and we are like water drained out on the earth, which it is not possible to take up again; and God will not take away the life of the man whose purpose is that he who has been sent away may not be completely cut off from him. -BBE

We all have to die—we're like water spilled out on the ground that can't be gathered up again. But God doesn't take life away; instead, he makes plans so those banished from him don't stay that way. -CEB

For we will certainly die and be like water poured out on the ground, which can't be recovered. But God would not take away a life; He would devise plans so that the one banished from Him does not remain banished. -CSB

For we must needs die, and are as water spilt on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again; and God has not taken away his life, but devises means that the banished one be not expelled from him. -DBY

We must all die; we are like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again. But God will not take away life, and he devises means so that the banished one will not remain an outcast. -ESV

We are all going to die; we are all like water that is poured on the ground and can't be gathered up. But doesn't God forgive a person? He never plans to keep a banished person in exile. -GW

We all die sometime. Water spilled on the ground can't be gathered up again. But God does not take away life. He works out ways to get the exile back -MSG

We will all die some day. We're like water spilled on the ground; no one can gather it back. But God doesn't take away life. Instead, he plans ways that those who have been sent away will not have to stay away from him! -NCV

Like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be recovered, so we must die. But that is not what God desires; rather, he devises ways so that a banished person does not remain banished from him. -NIV

To devise =

To invent a plan or system using your intelligence or imagination.
 

FineLinen

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Serious failure on the part of the Creator of all ? ?

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“As an escape from the doctrine of eternal torment, I at first embraced the doctrine of annihilation for the wicked, and for a little while tried to comfort myself with the belief that this life ended all for them. But the more I thought of it, the more it seemed to me that it would be a confession of serious failure on the part of the Creator, if He could find no way out of the problem of His creation, but to annihilate the creatures whom He had created.

One day a revelation came to me that vindicated God, and settled the whole problem forever. I saw that it was true, as the Bible says, that ‘as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.’ As was the first, even so was the second. The ‘all’ in one case could not in fairness mean less than the all in the other. I saw therefore that the remedy must necessarily be equal to the disease.

The salvation must be as universal as the fall.

I saw this that day on the tram-car on Market Street, Philadelphia – not only thought it, or hoped it – but knew it. It was a Divine fact. And from that moment I have never had a questioning thought as to the final destiny of the human race. The how and the when I could not see; but the one essential fact was all I needed – somewhere and somehow God was going to make everything right for all the creatures He had created. My heart was at rest about it forever.” -Hannah W. Smith- (My unexpected discovery)
 
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