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The Restitution Of All Things

FineLinen

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I am writing this to you from the God who is, the God who was, and the God about to arrive, and from the seven spirits assembled before his throne, and from Jesus Christ—loyal witness, firstborn from the dead, ruler of all earthly kings. Glory and strength to Christ, who loves us, who blood-washed our sins from our lives, who made us a kingdom, priests for his Father, forever—and yes, he’s on his way! He’ll be seen by every eye, oh yes, the Master declares, I’m A to Z. I’m The God who Is, the God who was, and the God about to arrive. I’m the sovereign-strong. Don’t fear: I am first, I am last, I’m alive. I died, but I came to life, and my life is now forever. See these keys in my hand? They open and lock death’s doors, they open and lock hell’s gates. ~MSG

 
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FineLinen

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Adam where are you?

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The narrative of Scripture is of a terrible disruption.

Man was made to know God and walk within Him in fellowship. The union that began in the beginning, became marred by disobedience, separation and death. The Grande Experiment of God became momentarily side-tracked, leading ultimately to Father's purpose within Himself, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Adam Adam where are you?

 

FineLinen

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Many have been taught by well-meaning teachers that, one day, the lost will be forced to bow their knees to the Lord of glory and confess with their tongues that Jesus Christ is Lord. Unending torment is then added to the picture, these ones will be forced to make this confession right before they are unmercifully cast by an angry and vengeful god into an eternal and literal lake of fiery torture.

The purpose of the Lake of Fire is to bring the carnal deeds of the lost into the second death, right the wrongs of their life (judgment of their deeds), and teach them righteousness. Restoration & rectification is the goal of Abba, as each one in union with the Name of Jesus bow before Him in unrestrained worship.

God wills all to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. The Will of the Creator always prevails.

Always !


The Ultimate Purpose of God - All in All New
 
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FineLinen

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Salvation of God expressed in ages

The Scripture says “in its own time periods.”

Christ gave Himself as a ransom for all men, but the testimony, or the witnessing, of that ransom will only be manifest “in its own time periods”.

Professor Wuest in his Expanded Translation of 1 Timothy 2:6, shows the full intent of what Paul meant. “Who [Christ] gave himself a ransom on behalf of all, the testimony of which was to be given in His own strategic seasons.”

The actual Greek of the text has plain, but profound teaching. Paul, in a dogmatic way, shows that Christ would become a testimony to all men, but only in certain time periods which belong particularly to Him. God is in control. He will disclose His full plan of salvation for men during certain strategic periods which are within God’s superintendence.

Dr. Earnest L. Martin the doctrine of the ages

Part 1 = Time periods of salvation

The Time Periods for Salvation, Part 1
 

FineLinen

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The koine theion is the incense of Jehovah.

The Lake of Fire is His essence. Our God is consuming fire; the Limne of Theos is consuming fire in which every last element of sin and iniquity is consumed: every last rotten bit!

The association of fire with purification in both Old and New Covenants is easily traceable. In the Old Testament the prophetic analogy of silver being purified by fire is classically representative of the purification theme of the Bible.

St. Paul, gets to the heart of the matter when he writes about every mans work being tried by fire, yet the man, himself, being saved. NOTE: "saved".

St. John, makes it a point to call the Lake of pur the Lake of Fire, but also of brimstone, which is an old word for sulfur, with sulfur being a common agent of ceremonial purification in temples of worship in ancient times.

Destruction or purification?

Neither scripture nor science recognizes the destruction of anything in the sense of annihilation, that is, of anything being reduced to a state of absolute nothingness. Destruction does not render anything nonexistent, but rather incapable of carrying out its function, as in the destruction of a tank in warfare. The mass of metal is still there, but it can't function as a tank any longer.
Even if you were to vaporize the tank completely, yet, its intrinsic elements would still exist in other forms. Contrary to conventional theology, all things were not created from nothing, and none of the things that have been created will ever face nonexistence, and by that nonexistence in any form. All created things are subject to change, change in form, but not subject to losing their intrinsic existence.

What we have in the process of purification by fire is, first, a separation of the object of purification from all that defiles it, all that is foreign to its intrinsic constitution, and then the removal of the corrupting element.
 

FineLinen

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Two Adams: Two Outcomes

ROMANS CHAPTER 5 KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...05&version=MSG

Adam 1 = many made sinners.

Last Adam = many made riighteous.

Last Adam =

1. Saved by His life.

2. Much more than being justified.

3. Free gift came upon all mankind.

4. Sin abounded: grace abounded much more.

5. Sin reigned unto death, even so grace reigns through righteousness.

"There is no longer a question of being at odds with God in any way. If, when we were at our worst, we were put on friendly terms with God by the sacrificial death of his Son, now that we’re at our best, just think of how our lives will expand and deepen by means of his resurrection life! Now that we have actually received this amazing friendship with God, we are no longer content to simply say it in plodding prose. We sing and shout our praises to God through Jesus, the Messiah!" -msg
 
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FineLinen

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Are we to believe?

Are we to believe that the same God Who expends thousands of years in slowly fitting this earth for man’s habitation, will only allow to man himself a few fleeting years, or months, or hours, as it may be, as his sole preparation time for eternity?

To settle questions so unspeakably great in their issue -questions stretching away to a horizon so far distant that no power of thought can follow them-in such hot haste, does seem quite at variance with our heavenly Father’s ways.

Is God’s action outside man so slow, and within man so hurried? Is the husk of far more value than the seed? Are millions of years allotted to fashioning man’s earthly home, while for man’s spiritual training for eternity, but a few brief years are given, and these so largely broken up by sleep, by work, by disease, by ignorance?

What should we say, to take a homely illustration, of an arrangement allotting 10,000 years to fashioning a man’s coat, or building his house, while assigning to his whole education but a few hours?” -Thomas Allin (Christ Triumphant)
 

FineLinen

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The Nature of Love

The relationship between God’s gift and His grace are attributes of God that are particularly highlighted in scripture. All the characteristics that are properly ascribed to the Divine Nature find their center in the truth that God is love, so that when God is described also, for instance, as light, spirit and consuming fire, such descriptions essentially explain the meaning and nature of divine love.

That God is light, speaks to us of the fact that it is the nature of love to enlighten, to give understanding. God’s love is self-revelatory. It shines out of its essence and needs nothing outside of itself to make itself known. That God is spirit confronts us with the truth, that in spite of the propensity of divine love to subject itself to all that is adversarial to its existence, love is still, underneath all that hostility, universally and constitutionally pervasive. It is the spirit that constitutes all being, all existence. It’s what “makes the world go around,” from within, and is what gives all things their cohesiveness.

That God is a consuming fire encourages us to trust that the inner love-spirit essence of all things, from the inside out, will cleanse itself from all that seeks to defile it. The divine nature of love can be afflicted by such defilement but it can never in its essence be defiled. On this foundation rests our salvation.

So it is with the gift of God, and the graciousness of God.
As it is true that when we speak of God as spirit, light, and consuming fire, we are essentially explaining the nature of love — those other attributes do not stand alongside love, they explain love as they are the unfolding of love’s nature, so when we speak of the grace of God, we are, really redundantly, explaining the nature of His gift; that it is, in fact, free. We are emphasizing the obvious, that God’s gift cannot be earned. It is, as all gifts should be, freely given. It is what it is — His gift. The grace of God is, to my understanding, simply God’s givingness.

God’s gift and God’s grace do not stand alongside one another. As Jesus said of His relationship with the Father, “I and the Father are One,” so also, God’s gift (Christ) and His grace (His givingness) are one. He is graciously giving. He gifts us out from His nature of givingness. Finally understood, God only has one gift for mankind, and that is the gift of His Son.

In Him are all the riches of the glory of God’s grace. We need to see the obvious, that Paul’s expression, “the glory of His grace” simply means, His grace’s glory. God is gloriously gracious, and we see grace’s glory in the face of Jesus Christ. In Him we see summed up the givingness of God, and NO decision on the part of man can frustrate the givingness of God. He will give Himself, in His Son, to all creation until all creation is full of His glory, so that all creation will come to realize its true inner constitution. This is the essence of the Kingdom of God. ~John Gavazzoni

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FineLinen

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God's Lost & Found

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Perish

When the Scripture uses a word such as “perish” or “destroy,” the original word is “apollumi.” The Greek word “apollumi” means to “to lose, or to be lost.” It is the same word Jesus used when He said

"I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel" (Matthew 15:24).

and

"Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, “Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep”" (Luke 15:4-7).

The word, “apollumi,” is used to describe a sheep which was lost and then was found and restored. And Christ uses this same exact word in the following verse:

"Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matthew 10:28-29). (The word translated as "Hell" in this verse is actually gehenna, the city dump outside of Jerusalem)

The original word for “destroy” here is “apollumi” which means “to lose or be lost.” This verse is not speaking of an eternal annihilation of a soul, but of a temporary losing of the soul, just like the “lost” sheep that was later found. It is the same with all the times you see Jesus speaking of someone “perishing.” Such as in John 3:16

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

A better translation would be “whoever believes in Him should not be lost.” We are all lost until God finds us. Those who die yet unbelieving will experience further “apollumi,” or being “lost” in the Lake of Fire, which is the second death. But God has promised to destroy all death once and for all and grant belief to all at the consummation of the ages.

If apollumi or apollumi meant destruction according to the traditional definition by those who believe in eternal torment or annihilation, then Jesus is lost forever:

"But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the multitudes that they should ask for Barabbas and DESTROY (apollumi) Jesus." Matt. 27:20

So then, will you hold to the "traditional" view which makes the word of God of no effect? Or will you have the courage to go against the traditional hell-fire or annihilation view which denigrates the glorious victory Jesus bought through conquering death on the Cross for all mankind?

Those who are “lost” or “perished,” are like the lost sheep.

The lost sheep was perished, but the shepherd sought it out and restored it. We are all like the lost sheep before God finds us. Even now we are. We are all “apollumi”, or “lost and perished” as the lost sheep was. We are separated and alienated from God. But the lost sheep did not stay that way. And neither does anyone else. The Good Shepherd does not stop looking until He has found the last one.
 
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FineLinen

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Questions =

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1. Which hell of the four (tartaroo, shoel, hades, geheena) are everlasting?

2. Since God is the beginning and ending of the all, (ta panta), where do all four hells end?

3. All are made sinners through the disobedience of Adam, are the same all included in the Last?

4. To what degree are the seed of Adam made righteous in the Last, (the Master of reconciliation)?

5. We are required by our Father to love our enemies, can we safely infer that God loves His enemies? (Matt. 5:44)

6. If God loves His enemies, will He punish them more than will be for their good?

7. Would endless punishment be for the good of any being?

8. Since our God loves His friends, if He loves His enemies also, are not all mankind the objects of His love?

9. If our Father God only loves those who love Him, what better is He than the sinner? (Luke 6:32-33)

10. "Love thinketh no evil", can our Father design the ultimate evil of a single soul? (1 Cor. 13:5)
 

FineLinen

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Our God is love incarnate

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The dogma of endless evil

The view of eternal torment is a ghastly presentation of the character of the One who is love incarnate. Most men do not realize its true bearing, or the light in which it really presents the character of God.

Consider how this dogma of endless evil must strike an inquirer after God, one outside the pale of Christianity, but sincerely desirous of learning the truth. There are such individuals.

You tell this inquirer that God is not Almighty only, but all good; that God is indeed love; that God is his Father. But these terms are words without any justification at all, if they have not their common ordinary sense when applied to our God.

 

FineLinen

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Nothing = oudeis =

"The One who died for us, who was raised to life for us, is in the presence of God at this very moment sticking up for us. Do you think anyone is going to be able to drive a wedge between us and Christ's love for us? There is no way! Not trouble, not hard times, not hatred, not hunger, not homelessness, not bullying threats, not backstabbing, not even the worst sins listed in Scripture: None of this fazes us because Jesus loves us. I'm absolutely convinced that nothing, nothing living or dead, angelic or demonic, today or tomorrow, high or low, thinkable or unthinkable, absolutely nothing can get between us and God's love because of the way that Jesus our Master has embraced us. ~ MSG

thanatos can't

zōē can't

angelos can't

archē can't

enistēmi can't

mellō can't

dynamis can't

"No power in the sky above or in the earth below, indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord."

NOTHING !

Who are included in "us'?

ROMANS CHAPTER 8 KJV
 

FineLinen

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Bad news or exceptional news?

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"The current Evangelical theology involves in its system belief in the deathlessness of sin, the indestructibility of error, and permanence of evil. That though there was a time in the history of the universe when sin in any shape or form did not exist, when no cry of pain or sense of guilt darkened the all-extensive bliss and holiness of creation, yet since sin has once effected an entrance into such a scene, it has come in never to go out again, indestructible, unconquerable, ineradicable, endless. Absolute happiness and sinlessness have forever vanished like the phantom of a dream. The eternal state is a universe endlessly finding room for myriads of souls rolling and writhing in the burning agonies of ceaseless flame, eternally sinful, vile and morally hideous. It pictures the final perfection yet to be attained as having room for a vast cesspool of immoral and degraded beings, continually existing in opposition to God." ~V. Gelesnoff

Welcome to the glad news of our Father

Greater Emmanuel International Ministries
 

FineLinen

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There is no free ride!
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"You are God's house. Let each carpenter who comes on the job take care to build on the foundation! Remember, there is only one foundation, the one already laid: Jesus Christ. Take particular care in picking out your building materials. Eventually there is going to be an inspection. If you use cheap or inferior materials, you'll be found out. The inspection will be thorough and rigorous. You won't get by with a thing. If your work passes inspection, fine; if it doesn't, your part of the building will be torn out and started over. But you won't be torn out; you'll survive but just barely." ~MSG

"You are God's cultivated garden, the house he is building. So builders beware! Let every builder do his work carefully, according to God's standards. No one is empowered to lay an alternative foundation other than the good foundation that exists, which is Jesus Christ! The quality of materials used by anyone building on this foundation will soon be made apparent, whether it has been built with gold, silver, and costly stones, or wood, hay, and straw. Their work will soon become evident, for the Day will make it clear, because it will be revealed by blazing fire! And the fire will test and prove the workmanship of each builder. If his work stands the test of fire, he will be rewarded. If his work is consumed by the fire, he will suffer great loss. Yet he himself will barely escape destruction, like one being rescued out of a burning house." ~TPT

1 Cor. 3: 13-15

"Every man" = hekastos

"Shall try" = dokimazō

"Of what sort" = hopoios

"Work" = ergon

"Abide" = menō

"Shall be burned" = katakaiō

"He shall suffer loss" = zēmioō

"Shall be saved" = sōzō
 

FineLinen

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Perfunctory genuflections? ?

"That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow (ινα εν τω ονοματ Ιησου παν γονυ καμψη). First aorist active subjunctive of καμπτω, old verb, to bend, to bow, in purpose clause with ινα. Not perfunctory genuflections whenever the name of Jesus is mentioned, but universal acknowledgment of the majesty and power of Jesus who carries his human name and nature to heaven. This universal homage to Jesus is seen in Romans 8:22; Ephesians 1:20-22 and in particular Revelation 5:13. Under the earth (καταχθονιων). Homeric adjective for departed souls, subterranean, simply the dead. Here only in the N.T. -Robertson Word Pictures

"God lifted him high and honored him far beyond anyone or anything, ever, so that all created beings in heaven and on earth—even those long ago dead and buried—will bow in worship before Jesus Christ, and call out in praise that he is the Master of all, to the glorious honor of God the Father." ~MSG

Perfunctory = Definition of perfunctory | Dictionary.com

Genuflections = Definition of genuflection | Dictionary.com

Submit = hypeikō =

To yield & give way.

To resist no longer.

To yield/ submit to authority and admonition.

The authority of the name of Jesus causes every knee to bow in reverence! Everything and everyone will one day submit to this name—in the heavenly realm, in the earthly realm, and in the demonic realm. -TPT
 
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FineLinen

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Everything for His purpose brought back to restoration

"In the Son all our sins are canceled and we have the release of redemption through his very blood. He is the divine portrait, the true likeness of the invisible God, and the firstborn heir of all creation. For in him was created the universe of things, both in the heavenly realm and on the earth, all that is seen and all that is unseen. Every seat of power, realm of government, principality, and authority—it all exists through him and for his purpose! He existed before anything was made, and now everything finds completion in him. He is the beginning and the firstborn heir in resurrection, he is the most exalted One, holding first place in everything. God is satisfied to have all his fullness dwelling in Christ. By the blood of his cross, everything in heaven and earth is brought back to himself—back to its original intent, restored to innocence again!" ~TPT
 

FineLinen

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An on-going process

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Being born anew is in the present progressive tense. It is not a one time occurrence, but rather being born by stages of glory into becoming like Him.

The Greek verb for must ("δει") as in "you must be born anew" (John 3:7) is in the present tense indicative mood. Denoting a continued need now, and going forward.

All dimensions of the old-man nature must be eclipsed by the working of the flaming swords of the Lord swirling in every direction. The way back into the Tree of Life is guarded by Cherubim preventing fallen flesh from entrance.

The purpose of the cross is to do away with you, blessed riddance. -A.W. Tozer
 

FineLinen

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Is our God good or evil?

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At the foundation of each person is how we perceive the Creator of all to be. Is He good, or evil in nature? He is agathos in the beginning, progressing throughout His overtures of singers and trumpeters sounding the note "He is good". The praises of Him continue to sound-- give thanks unto the Lord for He is good.

Our God is agathos, He is agathos in the beginning, He is agathos in the ending.

Our God began His purposes in agathos, not kakos. That which He began in agathos ends in agathos, not evil. His purposes are distinguished, excellent and upright!

Is your God good in nature or evil is the question for all of us to contemplate.
 

FineLinen

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God is the Father of all mankind.

“Have we not all one Father?” Mal. 2:10.

" One is your Father which is in Heaven.” Matt. 23:9.

Is there a human parent who would torment his offspring?

Is our heavenly Abba less kind than earthly fathers are?

God is unchangeable.

“He is in one mind, and who can turn him?” Job 23:13.

Therefore He always will be what He is now: omniscient, all-knowing, omnipotent, omni-present, infinitely good, holy, merciful, just, and the universal Father.

Our Father is not a partial Father, what He is now He will forever be!

Why are we glad that God is Almighty?

He is Almighty Goodness.

Why are we delighted that His understanding is infinite?

Because it is the understanding of Infinite Love.

Why are we pleased when we hear that God is Unchangeable?

Because it brings to our view a benevolence which will never vary.

Why do we rejoice that He is just?

The energy of Love will never cease to maintain and defend every thing that is right, and to oppose every thing that is wrong.
 
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