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The Religious: why do they lie?

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by Bishadi, May 16, 2009.

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  1. Bishadi

    Bishadi Active Member

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    Peace!

    what is your definition of God? to you?

    can we discuss this on this thread or do you believe we should open a thread specific, so others can participate and perhaps learn from the articulation.

    the worst that can happen is we both learn a bit and that is perhaps why i awaken each day.
     
  2. gnomon

    gnomon Well-Known Member

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    Dead fish on the shore are the easiest to catch.

    edit:Almost forgot
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BoNmpvkavo&feature=related
     
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  3. Bishadi

    Bishadi Active Member

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    then perhaps you should get back in the water before you kill yourself
     
  4. Breathe

    Breathe Hostis humani generis

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    That, madam, is the ultimate question. I have not decided what I concieve God to be, depsite over 1 1/2 years of spending every day considering it.

    I suppose the Ultimate personal and impersonal Prime Mover and Supreme Creator, of whom none are equal or superior to, who resides within, and also beyond all.

    I believe it would be within all interests to discuss it, if in public on the forum, in another thread so we do not detract from the original post, though PMs are fine with me too. :)
     
  5. Bishadi

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    Once Einstein was asked (Not verbatim)....

    if he believed that if god created the garden; and the reply was to the effect, ' i believe he is the garden and i have been trying to catch him at his work"

    my point is, in all time, over the life of existence, mankind has been chasing that exact frame of comprehension.

    what helped me was noting God in most every religions as being the first, the last, the everything; Alpha/omega...

    then in comprehending how physics described the universe, then it seem they also sumate that all existence is part of the singularity (ONE/Big bang)

    then to observe we are the only thing in existence that can create a 'word' shares that all the knowledge within existence was learned, written and shared by mankind.

    It can be mirrored to see, that mass is the corporeal (tangent) of things. That energy is truly the light between all mass (photon, phonion, soliton, etc) and time is what is transcendent such as knowledge of old can be conveyed to the future.

    all mass (corporeal) all energy (light/spirit) and all time (transcendent) do combine as the 'total'

    the math to describe this 'process' between the trinity is the name of........

    oooops!

    i was writing before reading your suggestion

    let's see how it pans out
     
  6. Willamena

    Willamena Just me
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    I agree; that's the worst. :D
     
  7. Tristesse

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    It's not so much a lie, but these people believe it to the fullest. They have the idea that scientists are out to get them, so, any bones found mean nothing. Any advancements made in science mean nothing to them. But when they need medical treatment, wheres the first place they go? To a hospital. So, the doctor's can treat them with medical science. it's ridiculous, this idea of only accepting certain science claims, and rejecting other ones, based purely on religious dogma.
     
  8. ChristineES

    ChristineES Tiggerism
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    1. I never trolled in my entire life.
    2. I wasn't raised with any religion whatsoever, I wasn't raised a Christian or anything else. My mother was an atheist from the time she was 12 until past her 40th birthday. My ancestors were Jews and Catholics, and I am a Protestant Christian.
    3. The statement highlighted in orange- If what I said was trolling, then what you said was trolling, too since I just copied your statement.
    4. I still can't see how you don't seem to see that your opening post can be taken as an insult even if it wasn't meant to be.
    5. I don't enjoy arguing, so I am leaving this thread for good.
     
  9. Quagmire

    Quagmire Imaginary talking monkey
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    ***Mod Post***

    This thread closed for review by staff.

     
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