Honey, it's you who think that Christianity is only about prayers, baptisms and masses.
Christianity is about Economics. Exclusively about Economics. almost all Jesus' parables are about Economics.
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The reasons why hundreds of Pagans converted to Christianity
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Honey, it's you who think that Christianity is only about prayers, baptisms and masses.
Christianity is about Economics. Exclusively about Economics. almost all Jesus' parables are about Economics.
outhouse
Atheistically
No.
It became popular due to Hellenist who had long worshipped Judaism and wanted to divorce it.
Jesus was that match, that lit the fire to start the divorce.
This is a typical Galilean village parable, in my opinion. We cannot trace it to Jesus or John the Baptist.
It certainly is not the reason nor a main principle of the popularity of the hellenistic movement in the Empire. Just a saying found popular by Hellenist
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outhouse
Atheistically
Your clueless.
The Galilean movement was about money, lack of it, and oppression, and corruption in the temple.
This has little to do with the mythology that advanced after his death in the Empire by Hellenist who were not poor.
The movement took in all walks of life, it did not focus on the poor after Jesus death.
This is a typical Galilean village parable, in my opinion. We cannot trace it to Jesus or John the Baptist.
It certainly is not the reason nor a main principle of the popularity of the hellenistic movement in the Empire. Just a saying found popular by Hellenist
well...almost all Jesus' parables are about economy, and specifically about social justice.
I don't care who wrote those parables. I just want to say that hey are the Truth.
outhouse
Atheistically
Galilean is more accurate.
Jesus created nothing, he learned from John and other Galilean Jews.
He was a lowlife handworker before learning from John, and taking over his movement.
SO Galilean parables, which are not the main part of Hellenistic Judaism, the Galilean version died out after Jesus death, as Jesus enemies ended up telling his tale Hellenistically. IMHO
It did not focus on the poor? well...lots of dioceses kept a fund for the poor. They became incredibly rich. Lots of pagans, who were poor, converted to Christianity because priests used to feed them.
It's all about economics, dear.
In History ideology never decided anything
outhouse
Atheistically
Later aspects.
You take what I say out of context stop it.
It accepted and helped the poor at times, but it focussed on all.
Paul was not poor. Nor were the church fathers. Nor were the Pater Familias that christianity grew from.
after Jesus' death, it died out?
well....read the acts of the apostles, and you will see that in the first Christian communities people had the duty to sell their proprieties to create a common fund for the poor
outhouse
Atheistically
Acts is not historically reliable. So stop it.
After jesus died the Galilean movement in Judaism, died. Jesus did not teach what would become christianity
It is unknown that Jesus inner circle were ever involved in any Hellenistic movement.
Paul and the unknown author of Acts were Hellenist very skilled in the art of rhetorical writing as Aristotles teachings influenced them.
Hellenistic Judaism turned into christianity after Jesus death.
It factually was not his galilean apostles furthering a strictly Jewish movement,
Phil25
Active Member
Are there any Sources for your claims?
Phil25
Active Member
Why is Acts not historically reliable?
outhouse
Atheistically
Just historians oulining how little we know of the actual Galilean movement.
We know Jesus took over Johns movement, we know Jesus went to learn from John.
We know the gospel authors are unknown and far removed from Galilen life.
We know these authors were writing to and for Jesus enemies, the Romans.
outhouse
Atheistically
Read it yourself.
Historical reliability of the Acts of the Apostles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The historical reliability of the Acts of the Apostles, the principal historical source for the Apostolic Age, is a major issue for biblical scholars and historians of Early Christianity
The unknown author was far removed from the life of Jesus anbd his inner circle, by time and culture, and geographic distance.
Phil25
Active Member
How do you know? Sources are needed.
How do you know? Sources are needed.
How do you know? Sources are needed.
outhouse
Atheistically
Yale, Harvard and years of research and debate with authors and scholars you see on TV.
okay...let's leave the Gospels aside, for a moment.
Do you really believe that the ancient Roman economy was based upon positive principles and that the Romans were basically good people?
outhouse
Atheistically
Then pick one thing at a time you dont understand.
Dont load me up, this is about what you dont know, not about what I dont know.
well, if you doubt the truthfulness of the Gospels you should also doubt the truthfulness of the works written by Thucidides, Titus Livius, Diodorus Siculus, Plutarchus, etc etc
why you don't doubt the existence of Alexander the Great, but you doubt what is written in the NT?
outhouse
Atheistically
No.
Yes the average joe was, in context to their time period.
Your questions are neither here nor there.
Phil25
Active Member
The article says, there are plenty of passages, which have been historically proved correct. How do you dismess them?