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The real difference

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by Engyo, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. Engyo

    Engyo Prince of Dorkness!

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    The article itself is fascinating, but the last paragraph for me defines the difference between religion and science:

     
  2. Student of X

    Student of X Paradigm Shifter

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    Am I to assume that there is a peer-reviewed paper in a respectable science journal that can provide solid, replicable evidence to support this assertion?
     
  3. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    If all scientific evidence points to humans only being natural, then we are a subset of nature and are changed by nature, not vice versa.

    It's not science. It's logic.
     
  4. Engyo

    Engyo Prince of Dorkness!

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    It might be helpful to actually read the article.

    BTW, are you asserting that we DO get to dictate to nature how it should behave? Jsut curious.......
     
  5. Student of X

    Student of X Paradigm Shifter

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    I did read it.

    Are you asserting that we DO get to dictate to the Divine how it should behave?

    "We make-up religion, so we can give it a happy ending" seems to be what you are implying.
     
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  6. Engyo

    Engyo Prince of Dorkness!

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    I wasn't implying anything about religion per se. It just struck me that I've never heard a group of religionists say anything like what the scientists said - that they found something completely unexpected, and that the data took them in a completely different direction from their expectations; which then forced them to comletely rewrite their theory.
     
  7. Sunstone

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    For the most part, I agree with you. Although I think many mystics might not have expected what they found. Other people though -- who might call themselves mystics, shoehorn their mystical experience into whatever religious box they grew up with. So, for instance, they interpret their mystical experience in, say, Christian terms.
     
  8. Student of X

    Student of X Paradigm Shifter

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    Thats because its not the job of "religionists" to mythologize and disseminate new religious truths. It's the job of mystics. And as a mystic I can tell you that I have learned the hard way to expect the unexpected.
     
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    Willamena Just me
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    While theories can be modified or even wrong, lots of them are correct as well. The fact we have discovered dark matter and dark energy and the begining of the universe and that we have evolved in such a short time span is in itself, truly amazing discoveries. Science is adavancing extremely rapidly and we gaining amazing knowledge on how it all works. In cosmology and astronomy new technologies are helping us discover amazing things.

    I thought this was a good quote

    "At some point a choice always has to be made. Science will follow that path until it dead ends or opens up new avenues of explanation. That's what discovery is all about."

    Science Follows A Dark Path : 13.7: Cosmos And Culture : NPR
     
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