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The Rapid Decline of Christianity in the USA
- Thread starter Skwim
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Why did you do that, @9-10ths_Penguin ?
My perverted imagination is now working at explaining how and why margarine destroys marriages.
My perverted imagination is now working at explaining how and why margarine destroys marriages.
It's one of my favourite sites.
When you're done with that, work on this:
Age of Miss America correlates with Murders by steam, hot vapours and hot objects
Riders
Well-Known Member
We should start a thread for ex Christians who have been hurt or decided to reject the bible to say why.
You are not helping. More, please!
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Then let us open the discussion for Zeus, Allah, Thor, Amon, Hecate, Poseidon, Quetzalcoatl, or Gilgamesh. Same self-circulating claims, evidence, and points.
Just because you have this need doesn't mean others do. I have no need for my soul to be saved, and nothing it needs saved from.
It doesn't declare that because STIs weren't even a concept then. And science, especially with germ theory, states your claim is false. It completely ignores than some STIs are debated as to whether or not they should even be rightfully considered an STI because there are so many ways other than sex to spread them.
I see numbers with no sources. I can just as easily say:
Rate of divorce in West: 75%
Rate of marriages with a cheating partner: 25%
See the correlation?
Without sources, my numbers stand just as credible as yours.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I think the hurt would be a better subject.
Why is Islam on the rise in the US, while Christianity is on the decline? Not sure if this was mentioned...I didn't go through the thread.
I happen to think because religious people often times like structure. Islam doesn't deviate like Christianity. Christianity has so many denominations that it doesn't seem unified. Islam unifies people it seems, and that's why it's popular I think over Christianity.
I happen to think because religious people often times like structure. Islam doesn't deviate like Christianity. Christianity has so many denominations that it doesn't seem unified. Islam unifies people it seems, and that's why it's popular I think over Christianity.
I have heard as much. I don't really have a better explanation.
Yea, it seems like a plausible reason considering both religions use the OT for much of their belief system so the idea that people are more educated and therefore dumping Christianity, can't be the main reason. Atheism is on the rise though, too.
Skwim
Veteran Member
5 key findings about the changing U.S. religious landscape
1. Christians are declining, both as a share of the U.S. population and in total number.
2. Within Christianity, the biggest declines have been in the mainline Protestant tradition and among Catholics.
3. The decline of Christians in the U.S. has corresponded with the continued rise in the share of Americans with no religious affiliation (religious “nones”).
4. the major trends seen in American religion since 2007 – the decline of Christians and rise of the “nones” – have occurred in some form across many demographic groups, including men and women, older and younger Americans, and people with different levels of education and different races and ethnicities.
5. The share of Americans who identify with non-Christian faiths, such as Islam and Hinduism, has grown modestly in recent years, from 4.7% in 2007 to 5.9% in 2014. Muslims now account for 0.9% of the U.S. adult population (up from 0.4% in the 2007 Landscape Study), while Hindus make up 0.7% of U.S. adults (up from 0.4% in 2007).
The main reasons for Islam’s growth ultimately involve simple demographics. To begin with, Muslims have more children than members of the seven other major religious groups analyzed in the study.
The growth of the Muslim population also is helped by the fact that Muslims have the youngest median age (24 in 2015) of all major religious groups, more than seven years younger than the median age of non-Muslims (32).
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The growth rate of Islam in Western nations (including the US and Canada) primarily comes through: a high Muslim birth rate and immigration (e.g., Muslims moving to the United States), not from converts (non-Muslims becoming Muslims).
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The growth of the Muslim population also is helped by the fact that Muslims have the youngest median age (24 in 2015) of all major religious groups, more than seven years younger than the median age of non-Muslims (32).
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The growth rate of Islam in Western nations (including the US and Canada) primarily comes through: a high Muslim birth rate and immigration (e.g., Muslims moving to the United States), not from converts (non-Muslims becoming Muslims).
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leibowde84
Veteran Member
If you are devoted, then adultery won't happen. That's my point. Honesty is also necessary for a healthy, long-lasting marriage.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Right, but God and/or God's laws/testaments are not necessary for honesty and devotion to exist. It's actually probably better if you are being devoted and honest for the sake of your spouse rather than for God or to follow his laws.
1robin
Christian/Baptist
Well we could start with Tytler's life cycle of governments. The one I am going to post is the specific one that applies to our government, but none of his other's are too off the mark.
Bondage
Spiritual Faith
Courage
Liberty
Abundance
Selfishness
Complacency
Apathy
Dependence
Then starting over with Bondage
Tytler organized these items in a circle:
That looks like the cycle of the representative republic the USA adopted for it's political model, perfectly. The very top would probably represent the 1700's. Step two, Christian faith led to the great progress this country made which belong on that half of the cycle. Starting with The formal school system, the creation of a strong military, the eventual abolition of slavery by force, the greatest founding documents and principles ever laid down, responsible monetary policies, the defeat of the greatest threat to freedom loving nations in existence, and best of all the great moral standard values and duties founded on the bible.
At the bottom of the circle about 1950 we were the epitome of wealth, freedom, individualism, military strength, and benevolence. However in the mid 50's the secular revolution began to tear down the cherished institutions that made us great, lessened our military power then forgot how to even use it, unchained morality from any objectictive fixed point, replaced God with either ourselves or science, and worst of all monetary policies so flawed they undoubtedly will be what finally kills us off. They already have, we are just fighting over ideas that determine how fast we bleed out.
Before you start arbitrarily adapting Tytler's cycle of democracy to make it more convenient for you your going to have to at least get close to his credentials:
Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee FRSE was a Scottish advocate, judge, writer and historian who served as Professor of Universal History, and Greek and Roman Antiquities at the University of Edinburgh. Wikipedia
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
And, like salvation, has been about as effective.
Abolition of slavery by force is, as should be self-evident, pointless and dreadful.
If people must be forced to behave ethically, then they will rebel and cause further sorrow when that force is no longer applied.
If people must be forced to behave ethically, then they will rebel and cause further sorrow when that force is no longer applied.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Well we could start with Tytler's life cycle of governments. The one I am going to post is the specific one that applies to our government, but none of his other's are too off the mark.
Bondage
Spiritual Faith
Courage
Liberty
Abundance
Selfishness
Complacency
Apathy
Dependence
Then starting over with Bondage
Tytler organized these items in a circle:
That looks like the cycle of the representative republic the USA adopted for it's political model, perfectly. The very top would probably represent the 1700's.
Your bias is duly noted.
Have a good day.
Muffled
Jesus in me
Muffled said "However if one is ignoring Jesus or working contrary to Him is such a person really acting as a Christian?"
Shadow Wolf said "Even still, any and every sin is an act of working contrary to god, and the only one who reserve the right to judge such things is god himself. Christianity inherently does not allow for the "no true Scots" position, because taking such a position has a Christian doing what only god is supposed to do"
I believe I am speaking God's judgement and not my own.
Actually God allows a few sins. David didn't get called out for committing the sin of having multiple wives but for taking another man's wife. I believe I am thinking of one who speaks against God. This brings to mind what Jesus said that a person will be held accountable for whatever he/she says. Sometime that means what is not said as well.
Shadow Wolf said "Even still, any and every sin is an act of working contrary to god, and the only one who reserve the right to judge such things is god himself. Christianity inherently does not allow for the "no true Scots" position, because taking such a position has a Christian doing what only god is supposed to do"
I believe I am speaking God's judgement and not my own.
Actually God allows a few sins. David didn't get called out for committing the sin of having multiple wives but for taking another man's wife. I believe I am thinking of one who speaks against God. This brings to mind what Jesus said that a person will be held accountable for whatever he/she says. Sometime that means what is not said as well.