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The radical regressive left is ruining the democrats

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by serp777, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. Woberts

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    It's not being treated as only a race problem. Race is a big part of the problem, though.
    Probably the biggest part, in fact.
     
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    Last time I checked, it was the right who had them working on actual plantations. While the saying is overrated, you should really learn some history.
     
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    You think AOC is "radical." [​IMG]
     
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    Funny how Reps excuse, pardon, and accept the same exact behavior from Devin Nunes.
     
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    I honestly don't see how. Sure, people are racist, but people saying mean things is the least of people's problems. As far as I'm aware, all the laws and practices which disadvantaged blacks as far as mortgage and business loans have been done away with. Fatherlessness, joblessness and poor schools don't afflict only blacks or Hispanics, they affect whites as well. Throwing money at people of color just because they're people of color doesn't solve the issue of how they got to be poor in the first place or what is still keeping them down.
     
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    What the left and the right were 170 years ago has no bearing on what the left and the right are today. The Democrats used to be the conservatives and the Republicans used to be the liberals, but now the opposite is true. The issues of a century and a half ago are not the issues that we face today. Pointing the finger at one side and blaming them for things that were promoted or practiced over a century ago won't do squat to fix the issues that we have going on right now. Nobody cares about who has the moral high road. What matters is proposing policies that will address the issues we're struggling with as Americans in the present day.
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. It was the Democrat south that fought both the Abolition and Emancipation legislation in Congress before the civil war. It was the Republicans and the Republican president in office at the time that orchestrated the end of slavery in the US. Fast forward to modern times, it was the Democrats that opposed the Civil Rights Acts (the even had a name, "Dixiecrats"), it took the Republican congress to give Johnson the win for this law. Facts are tricky little devils.
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Care to elaborate?
     
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    Devin Nunes does lots of things that aren't a part of his job, such as attending basketball games, but Reps around here excuse such things as "whining and dining the donors." He's going here, he's doing that, and much of it isn't related to his job. The Reps aren't bearing down on him in a similar manner.
     
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    So Devin Nunes does stuff that probably costs hundreds or thousands of dollars. Sure, there's stuff to criticize there, absolutely. But let's look at what AOC did: She cost New York City 27.5 billion dollars of revenue over the next quarter-century by chasing out Amazon. That is a MASSIVE difference in scale. You cannot honestly pretend that those two things are equivalent. And the worst part? She thought that a $3 billion tax credit for Amazon to come to NYC was money that the city could spend! She may have studied economics in university, but she clearly didn't learn a damn thing.
     
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    You're focusing on the names of the parties. When that happened, democrats were right and republicans were left. You've missed the point again.
     
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    That's been debunked because NYC doesn't need Amazon, who of course is already doing business there And if the community doesn't want you, bugger off because you aren't wanted. And why should they give Amazon money? Aren't Republicans opposed to such wealth redistribution?
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    And that's not at all her doing things not related to her job. She represented her constituents, which is what she's supposed to do. And, one of the towns I lived near in Indiana, are they radicals for fighting against Walmart for so many years and not allowing them in?
     
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    If you're going to butt in on other people's conversations, do try to respond to the actual questions people asked. Thanks for the "not all white people" rant, though.
     
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    It's not all people of color, either. That's the whole point. If we help poor people, and if poor people are predominantly minorities, then that ultimately means we're helping minorities anyway. We're just doing so in a manner that's fair to everyone involved.
     
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    No idea what any of this has to do with anything I said or asked, but sure, you do that.
     
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    Lmao the democratic establishment is center right? What are you talking about? I mean AOC is relatively close to Carl Marx on the left. She wants pure unadulterated socialism.

    And They aren't doing things that are beneficial for the people they represent so i don't see what your point is.
     
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    How exactly was this generated? Where are your sources? How are you calculating the center offset? Who would be someone today on the farthest left? Also political leanings are relative anyways. So if you shift it based on the current political climate then the would get something more reasonable. But this graph can be changed however you want depending on what you define the center as. And of course that's inherently subjective. Also its pretty insane that Trump and Bush are a step away from Hitler since presumably he's in the top right corner.
     
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    Trump is all about identity politics.. are you confused?
     
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    Still waiting for you to qualify any of your claims. Socialism isn't just a meaningless epithet, just FYI.
     
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