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The Quran is revelation of Welayat Ali (a), so why not reveal his name in Quran?


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There are about 110 verses about past succession. There are about 53 verses about the successors after Mohammad (s). There are about 11 verses where it's both past succession and successors of Mohammad (s).

I have not counted but I know there are a lot of verses about the position of Mohammad (s) including his Authority over believers, which is what Successors succeed in regards to.

There are over all then verses about linking that with belief in God and linking the truth by what God guides to both with his absolute unity and with the guides that guide by the truth. The last day is also linked with the reality of the witnesses and the book of deeds they will testify to.

There are many verses linking signs in creation with the guidance of God and that the signs of God's design in nature will lead us to believe there is going to be guidance from him. The guidance from him is then explained in detail to include leaders who guide by God's command.

There are verses linking hell and heaven as punishment and rewards with regards to this guidance.

There are also examples of God's commands in Quran, but the details and full code of God's command is in the Sunnah (however Quran does contain all of it but not in explicit terms).

There are also concepts such as face of God, light of God, side of God, that are all related to inward reality of Mohammad (s) and Ali (a) Welayat.

The spirituality with stars of guidance and heavenly realm and spiritual ascension is also explained with the family of the reminder.

There are also the reward accusation verses that link both past Messengers and Mohammad (s) in an accusation of ulterior motives and 42:23 makes this reward accusation (which is false) to be in reality nothing but love of Ahlulbayt (a).

There are then verses about chosen ones in general. There are verses about miracles which display power vested to God's chosen.

You may wonder, why doesn't then God just say "Ali ibn Abi Talib and his successors" in Quran if most if not all of Quran is somehow linked to proving his Welayat? Or why does he not say it in explicit terms that cannot have room for wiggling out of it no matter how much taking the words of their place is attempted? The reasons I perceived over time:

(1) The Eloquence of Quran in this regard is not to force the issue, but have it repeated throughout hidden in plain sight.
(2) The Quran would have only followers in support and would face distortion or God would have to force his power through his guides in similar way Sulaiman (a) forced his power on people and Jinn, but the result of that was people accused the chosen ones of being sorcerers and accused Sulaiman (a) of power through a ring he had control over Jinn and humans by, as if God didn't vest him with that power as a trust and proof. If the matter would be forced, people would've been destroyed per Quran and humanity would have failed the final tests by now.
(3) To display the Sorcery of Iblis - God allowed this distortion of blindness and moving verses from their context, so that believers have more certainty and become mentally clairvoyant about the issue of good and evil.
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