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Feel free to present some example of how he is mistaken, then.
Nope. You, however, are lying about him right now, consciously or otherwise.
I trust that you do not mean to, and for that reason I tell you that directly so that you may learn better.
I am intrigued, my friend. And thank you.
Your reading of the Qur'an was parsimonious? You skimmed through it?
Please be fair.
It sounds like you had a negative view of Islam before you read the Qur'an. Then you skimmed through it. This "parsimonious" reading confirmed your preconceived notions. And then you accepted the 500+ document even though it is based on inaccurate information ( The Skeptic's Annotated Qur'an ). And whether or not the document is accurate or not, you do not question its conclusion.
I agree. I will certainly try not to make this mistake again. If in doubt, may i send you a PM to check in with you first?It was these comments that I took as slurs. Without knowing the effort or care I put into my studies, you assumed I only skimmed the material, and was not aware of my own biases. A big part of my profession is to read books and assess - from a cognitive science perspective - what ideas reader's brains will learn from the book. I make an important distinction here between a "mind", which does indeed have biases, and a "brain", which is far less susceptible to bias.
Zooming out, I notice this pattern quite a bit. When people criticize religions, one of the apologist's first responses is to try to discredit the critic. This is clearly a fallacious approach. Ideas should stand or fall on their own merit, correct?
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Accusations of islamophobia are a dime a dozen, and nearly consistently worth as much.
The truth of the matter is that Islaam and Muslims only very rarely acknowledge criticism - any criticism at all - as a valid endeavour.
It is no coincidence that the Shias and Sunni are only rarely on even diplomatic terms towards each other.
Mostly, but not entirely. Nor was it always quite so impersonal as you may be assuming even when it was in the Internet.I have no credentials to make any demands.. I was thinking you probably learned about Islam on the Internet.
Are YOU reading other poster's responses?
I have been interested in Islam since the mid 1950s when I read a transcript of a radio broadcast by King Ibn Saud from the 1940s. He was promoting the acceptance of the radio and he read from the Koran.. He also said, "Man does not live by bread alone"... quoting Jesus and Matthew 4:4 .
Why would a Muslim King quote Jesus?
So I lived in the ME for 2 decades and studied Islam and talked to Muslim men and women.
I know ignorance and BS about Islam when I see it.
I suggest to learn about Islam from Quran, not from Muslims, please.Mostly, but not entirely. Nor was it always quite so impersonal as you may be assuming even when it was in the Internet.
It is remarkably difficult to actually learn about Islaam from Muslims, but I made a sincere effort and learned a lot about the main pitfalls.
I put a lot of effort into it, too. I needed to.
Sincerely, I can appreciate your personal experiences. That said, you've known only a handful of Muslims when compared to the world's 1.8 billion. We're talking about worldwide trends, we have to rely on large polls and statistical findings to make any sense of Islam in the whole.