Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Like I said, ok...
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The purpose of life
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Like I said, ok...
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
That is my point therefore we cannot presume to know whether the universe is sentient or not. We ultimately don't know why we exist, or why we are bipedal beings or why we eat food and why we are finite beings instead of infinite beings. With that being said the universe whether we listen to space or gaze at it through our telescopes I don't think we'll have the slightest clue. Our existence and the answers we find are individually defined by our own experiences. So although I do believe individual humans have their own purpose on a grand scale ultimately, we don't know the purpose of humanity nor the purpose of humanity's existence on a general scale nor can we accurately infer generally the purpose of human beings.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
I think you're making the issue more complex than what it is.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Because often times when we engage in something that provides meaning to us to which we excel we often times believe that we are intended for such a duty or meant to do such and such things.
Howard Is
Lucky Mud
Fine. Discussion over. Hope it did you no permanent damage.
Cooky
Veteran Member
I hope you haven't fallen into reductionism.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
It's just that you had no point so it's unnecessary to continue in repetitiveness.
Howard Is
Lucky Mud
Arrogant *****
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
It is not arrogant it really didn't. Let's dissect this for a moment
The OP never insinuated that life had sentience, you imparted the idea of sentience by misunderstanding the OP.
I said:
"we don't know what the universe wants" in response to @ChristineM saying that we need to "listen to the universe"
You therefore respond:
"We are the living universe"
I respond in kind:
"We are made up of dead star dust." If you mean we are the living universe then yes we are made up in composition to things that exist in the universe and yes we are living but that is besides the point. You failed to clarify your position clearly and therefore remained ambiguous and unclear hence is why I said it really made no sense.
Howard Is
Lucky Mud
Dissect it yourself buddy. After making a genuine attempt to communicate my view to you, you made a blanket statement that I simply had no point, so was not worth answering. I have no time for rude arrogance. We’re done.
Anyway, it’s bedtime downunder. Goodnight.
Cooky
Veteran Member
Sometimes it's a good idea to let people pour through their ideas, and lay them out. Lest we succumb to the reductionist paradigm.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Because you didn't and if you did it was unclear. My position is humility in the sense that we cannot define things universally because individual experiences will define what they view existence as to that individual. What sense does it make to say the purpose of life is this when someone else in a starving country may think their existence is hell? I can't define things for people if I'm not in their mind that is ultimately my point.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
I was responding to the OP you and the other guy butted in and got shut down, not my problem.
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Yes, those are the self assigned purposes to which I was alluding. Beyond that, there is no reason to suppose an over-arching purpose which lies outside of ourselves.
And i told you, chemistry 101, you may not like it but that is not my problem.
Rock is not sentient, some rocks my produce a piezo effect, as good shovking that, i know but thats as good as it gets.
Rock anywhere in the universe is made of the same basic elements, simple spectrographic analysis.
Until valid evidence can show otherwise they are simply an idea. I won't live my life on hypotheses. Anyone who does has my sympathy
As opposed to your claims? Ok
Who said sentience is not active in your body? The brain is part of the body. Is that your tactic, make up nonsence and pin it on your opponent? From now on i would be obliged if you stick to what i actually said.
Neurones are a cell made of dna. Dna is made from a phosphate and a sugar base and 4 nitrogen bases, no hydrogen required.
Learn some basic chemistry then you will understand there are 94 natural elements, they can make millions of different molecules. So now show me which molecules can combine to firm sentience.
There may be sentience elsewhere in the universe, it is almost sure there is. But the universe itself does not have the structure for sentence. It is too big, the limitation is the speed of light.
As for purposes, we are insignificant in our own solar system, on a universal scale we are not even a single H2O molecule in all the oceans. It does massage the ego to believe (for whatever reason) that we are here for a reason,. The history of the universe simply does not bare that idea up
By who?