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The problem of 'fake science' in layman literature.

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by shunyadragon, May 21, 2020.

  1. shunyadragon

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    This thread does not address the religious issues concerning the conflicts between some religious perspectives and science. It deals with the problem of the misuse and misrepresentation of science in layman science literature in Newspapers, internet and magazines.

    The problem of 'fake science' in layman literature.

    There are hundreds if not thousands of science editors in magazines and news papers, some good, some OK, some bad. Some often use misleading and sensationalist titles and language in their articles even though they usually cite or refer to the scientific literature. One clue is the title is in the form of a provocative question. Other hints are words and phrases like it: "force scientists to rethink theories . . .", "New discovery upends evolution,"

    An interesting odd articles in several of the questionable sources:

    You read it on Expressco.uk, The Thrillist, KSN, Boston News and Mother News Network, therefore it must be true, and even it is rumored that Elvis says it is true, but . . .

    Source: NASA news: High-energy particles in Antarctica could prove parallel universes


    NASA news: High-energy particles in Antarctica could prove parallel universes
    SCIENTISTS studying a "fountain of high-energy particles" using NASA instruments in Antarctica may have discovered evidence of a universe parallel to our own.
    By SEBASTIAN KETTLEY

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    It is odd, because I could not find any NASA news release that made this clam. Yes there is a ANITA study in Antarctica to study basic particles like Neutrinos.

    I did find this:
    Source: Bizarre Particles Keep Flying out of Antarctica's Ice, and They Might Shatter Modern Physics


    There’s something mysterious coming up from the frozen ground in Antarctica, and it could break physics as we know it.

    Physicists don’t know what it is exactly. But they do know it’s some sort of cosmic ray—a high-energy particle that’s blasted its way through space, into the Earth, and back out again. But the particles physicists know about—the collection of particles that make up what scientists call the Standard Model (SM) of particle physics—shouldn’t be able to do that. Sure, there are low-energy neutrinos that can pierce through miles upon miles of rock unaffected. But high-energy neutrinos, as well as other high-energy particles, have “large cross-sections.” That means that they’ll almost always crash into something soon after zipping into the Earth and never make it out the other side.

    And yet, since March 2016, researchers have been puzzling over two events in Antarctica where cosmic rays did burst out from the Earth, and were detected by NASA’s Antarctic Impulsive Transient Antenna (ANITA)—a balloon-borne antenna drifting over the southern continent.

    ANITA is designed to hunt cosmic rays from outer space, so the high-energy neutrino community was buzzing with excitement when the instrument detected particles that seemed to be blasting up from Earth instead of zooming down from space. Because cosmic rays shouldn’t do that, scientists began to wonder whether these mysterious beams are made of particles never seen before.

    Since then, physicists have proposed all sorts of explanations for these “upward going” cosmic rays, from sterile neutrinos (neutrinos that rarely ever bang into matter) to “atypical dark matter distributions inside the Earth,” referencing the mysterious form of matter that doesn’t interact with light [The 18 Biggest Unsolved Mysteries in Physics]

    All the explanations were intriguing, and suggested that ANITA might have detected a particle not accounted for in the Standard Model. But none of the explanations demonstrated conclusively that something more ordinary couldn’t have caused the signal at ANITA.

    A new paper uploaded today (Sept. 26) to the preprint server arXiv changes that. In it, a team of astrophysicists from Penn State University showed that there have been more upward-going high-energy particles than those detected during the two ANITA events. Three times, they wrote, IceCube (another, larger neutrino observatory in Antarctica) detected similar particles, though no one had yet connected those events to the mystery at ANITA. And, combining the IceCube and ANITA data sets, the Penn State researchers calculated that, whatever particle is bursting up from the Earth, it has much less than a 1-in-3.5 million chance of being part of the Standard Model. (In technical, statistical terms, their results had confidences of 5.8 and 7.0 sigma, depending on which of their calculations you’re looking at.)

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    Even some of this language is odd, but it does not make the unusual claims the less questionable articles make.

    My guess it has something to do with the magnetic field of the earth. I would like some in put on anyone that may have some knowledge or sources to contribute.
     
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  2. sun rise

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    The odds that the regular media gets science accurately is very very low. I loved the headline about time reversal parallel universes but as something for a joke thread not a science thread.

    I try to go back to science media rather than the MSM when there's scientific news. The regular media sensationalizes stories to get people excited so they'll be exposed to ads. This is true beyond politics - left and right media do this, some more than others, of course.

    This is not limited to science. GetReligion analyses religion stories albeit from a conservative, traditionalist perspective and finds of course a lot of bias and mis-reporting.
     
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    Nothing wrong with a little humor in a science thread. The fact that many took this seriously once the meme ball got rolling it is almost more tragic than funny.

    True, and some of these misleading lines in articles are indeed often used by the ilk of YEC Creationists to justify their rejection of evolution and abiogenesis.

    The pattern is that layman editors, often well intentioned, write layman articles with scientific legitimate references, but add words and phrases that interprete things not in the references. Sometimes people with a religious motive often cite the layman articles to further misrepresent the science to justify their agenda. I may give an example of this next.
     
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  4. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Ah, you talk about fake science, but would not talk about fake prophets / sons / messengers / manifestations / mahdis supposed to have been dispatched by an Allah or God.
     
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    Your proposing the subjective philosophical/theological world, which is not the subject of the thread, and of course, not subject of Science and Technology.

    Start a thread in the appropriate category and we will discuss it, Of course, there are already a million and one threads already here and in various forums.

    Posts like this stir up the bats and squirrels out of the atic and they poop all over the place.
     
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    Which is why the mathematical male owned/conscious ownership, titled statements owned by human males for science as science own all causes in natural history of copying past events, then owning minus one...as a plus or added onto destructive act against God the O stone planet.

    Just as we were taught...why MATHS used by science for inventive destroyer science conversion of God the stone body...to gain what they claim is energy of God...for God does not own energy anywhere else...but by machine of its own mass/matter...the string of God from male human science. O Earth.

    Yet their machine has no interactive God Earth history whatsoever, their first destructive lie....why MATHS probability gives them the Destroyer answer that equates whilst in this form of conscious male self identity...as a male world community group....the DESTROYER self...as a self warning....science self.

    Therefore logically the Sun to Earth stories stated, when Earth was sink hole bored out to its core in crystalline held Earth historic fusion melt......the core was held bound by water mass pouring into the holes, which not only cooled volcanic mass, and formed the Earth seals...it fused the radiation core, and held it.

    Male first science awareness....says I will copy....yet the Earth history flooded water to mountain tip....the taught science theory...for the sake of teaching correct Earth science laws of stone...about God. Why those stories exist, even though you might not interpret them in modern day scientific symbolism, the basis of the theme is true.

    Hence in the next Earth attack, science tried to mimic that history....and brought in the UFO mass satellites that had left Earth...by circumstance of that knowledge of it having abducted Earths gases/sucked up water before it left.

    So those UFO radiation bodies were in between UFO itself from the Sun and Earth stone held fusion.

    They re heated them...so they prove that in that reheating and non water mass, they penetrate the ground mass....and follow the ancient pre owned burning carbon paths that previous science Ufology/conversion caused.

    Yet life on Earth on a planet shifts its mass...so some of it just attacks the stone and releases stone fusion cold radiation....which becomes a disintegration like a power plant forces.....or it simply moves through old burnt out carbon paths....but destroys those paths also...causing underground plate disintegration from plate thinning that snaps the plates.

    The mass heat ejection comes from plate/tunnel change and lava in a very hot underground mass heat that is nothing like the opened aired volcanic mass....for that molten mass came from cold crystalline fusion plus UFO metal radiation mass attack. How it has nothing at all to do with any Sun.

    Logic of common sense science stated says the Sun owns the presence of natural light gas burning in our atmosphere...scientifically stated. The UFO changes owns the destruction of God the planet and all of its Nature.....why ICE was involved in the cooling effect historically but in modern times melts...proving that the volcanic mass has arisen into higher reactive underground movement.

    All of that information was historically and philosophically discussed before, in the Christ Tribunal, and agreed upon by the ancient sciences, who identified all of that knowledge before.....and forbade any more occult UFO technologies.
     
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    No consensus explanation has yet emerged in the literature although beyond SM interpretations have been proffered. See e.g.,
    Anchordoqui, L. A., & Antoniadis, I. (2019). Supersymmetric sphaleron configurations as the origin of the perplexing ANITA events. Physics Letters B, 790, 578-582.
    Chauhan, B., & Mohanty, S. (2019). Leptoquark solution for both the flavor and ANITA anomalies. Physical Review D, 99(9), 095018.
    Cline, J. M., Gross, C., & Xue, W. (2019). Can the ANITA anomalous events be due to new physics?. Physical Review D, 100(1), 015031.
    Esteban, I., Lopez-Pavon, J., Martinez-Soler, I., & Salvado, J. (2020). Looking at the axionic dark sector with ANITA. The European Physical Journal C, 80(3), 1-9.
    Heurtier, L., Mambrini, Y., & Pierre, M. (2019). Dark matter interpretation of the ANITA anomalous events. Physical Review D, 99(9), 095014.
    Huang, G. Y. (2018). Sterile neutrinos as a possible explanation for the upward air shower events at ANITA. Physical Review D, 98(4), 043019.
     
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    Clickbait titles and sensational language are a double edged sword. On the one hand it leads to false impressions on the other it at least piques some interest in science in the general public.
    While half knowledge is more dangerous than no knowledge at all, complete disinterest in science can't be the goal either.
     
  9. shunyadragon

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    Even some reputable, maybe reputable, scientists have too much time on their hands like an entomologists spending his waking hours looking for insects in fuzzy photos of Mars. The science equivalent of looking Jesus in Cumulus clouds. Interesting pictures if you check out the article. Unfortunately many do not see the fine print that Ohio University retracted the article. Though once the cat was out of the bag the memes of Martian insects spread like a California brush fire for a while.

    Source: Photos Show Evidence of Life on Mars: Insect- and Reptile-Like Fossils & Living Creatures



    Photos Show Evidence of Life on Mars: Insect- and Reptile-Like Fossils & Living Creatures

    By [Dr. William Romoser] OHIO UNIVERSITY NOVEMBER 19, 2019

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    [Update 11/29/19: Ohio University has withdrawn this article.]

    Analysis of images from Mars rovers shows insect- and reptile-like fossils, creatures according to Ohio University entomologist.
    As scientists scramble to determine whether there is life on Mars, Ohio University Professor Emeritus William Romoser’s research shows that we already have the evidence, courtesy of photographs from various Mars rovers.

    “There has been and still is life on Mars.” — Dr. William Romoser, Ohio University Professor Emeritus

    Dr. Romoser, who specializes in arbovirology and general/medical entomology, has spent several years studying photographs from the red planet that are available on the Internet. He found numerous examples of insect-like forms, structured similarly to bees, as well as reptile-like forms, both as fossils and living creatures. He presented his findings Tuesday, November 19, 2019, at the national meeting of the Entomological Society of America in St. Louis, Missouri.

    “There has been and still is life on Mars,” Romoser said, noting that the images appear to show both fossilized and living creatures. “There is apparent diversity among the Martian insect-like fauna which display many features similar to Terran insects that are interpreted as advanced groups – for example, the presence of wings, wing flexion, agile gliding/flight, and variously structured leg elements.”

    Romoser said that while the Martian rovers, particularly the Curiosity Rover, have been looking for indicators of organic activity, there are a number of photos which clearly depict the insect- and reptile-like forms. Numerous photos show images where arthropod body segments, along with legs, antennae, and wings, can be picked out from the surrounding area, and one even appears to show one of the insects in a steep dive before pulling up just before hitting the ground.

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    “Three body regions, a single pair of antennae, and six legs are traditionally sufficient to establish identification as ‘insect’ on Earth. These characteristics should likewise be valid to identify an organism on Mars as insect-like.” — Dr. William Romoser

    Individual images were carefully studied while varying photographic parameters such as brightness, contrast, saturation, inversion, and so on. No content was added, or removed. Criteria used in Romoser’s research included: Dramatic departure from the surroundings, clarity of form, body symmetry, segmentation of body parts, repeating form, skeletal remains, and observation of forms in close proximity to one another. Particular postures, evidence of motion, flight, apparent interaction as suggested by relative positions, and shiny eyes were taken to be consistent with the presence of living forms.

    “Once a clear image of a given form was identified and described, it was useful in facilitating recognition of other less clear, but none-the-less valid, images of the same basic form,” Romoser said. “An exoskeleton and jointed appendages are sufficient to establish identification as an arthropod. Three body regions, a single pair of antennae, and six legs are traditionally sufficient to establish identification as ‘insect’ on Earth. These characteristics should likewise be valid to identify an organism on Mars as insect-like. On these bases, arthropodan, insect-like forms can be seen in the Mars rover photos.”

    Fossil Image from Mars Rover
    Putative fossil insect on its dorsum with head to the top, and with selected structures labelled. Credit: Analysis by Dr. William Romoser

    Distinct flight behavior was evident in many images, Romoser said. These creatures loosely resemble bumble bees or carpenter bees on Earth. Other images show these “bees” appearing to shelter or nest in caves. And others show a fossilized creature that resembles a snake.

    Romoser, who was an entomology professor at Ohio University for 45 years and co-founded its Tropical Disease Institute, also spent nearly 20 years as a visiting vector-borne disease researcher at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases. Between 1973 and 1998, Romoser authored and co-authored four editions of the widely-used textbook, “The Science of Entomology.”

    Romoser noted that interpretations of insect- and reptile-like creatures he described may change in the future as knowledge of life on Mars evolves, but that the sheer volume of evidence is compelling.

    “The presence of higher metazoan organisms on Mars implies the presence of nutrient/energy sources and processes, food chains and webs, and water as elements functioning in a viable, if extreme, ecological setting sufficient to sustain life,” he said. “I have observed instances suggestive of standing water or small water courses with evident meander and with the expected blurring of small submerged rocks, larger emergent rocks at the atmosphere/water interface, a moist bank area, and a drier area beyond the moist area. Water on Mars has been reported a number of times, including surface water detected by instrumentation on Viking, Pathfinder, Phoenix, and Curiosity.

    “The evidence of life on Mars presented here provides a strong basis for many additional important biological as well as social and political questions,” he added. It also represents a solid justification for further study.

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    Why is it that natural vision, which exists first before any science implements, showed me a Mayan elder male who communicated/transmitted information of when they lost their civilization in Earth stone trans mutation conversion of stone mass into mineral elemental changes. Such as a technology on how to obtain gold in that process?

    And the image showed Earth losing its atmospheric water gas mass out of its fused body and Mars was a burning ball of fire.

    Isn't self combustion causes how stone like bodies exist after Sun/Ufo converted destruction as evidence, oh yes life once used to exist on Mars. Mars was defined to be the GOD of War in relative ideal in human earth science cause as the UFO attack history and Earth is next in line.

    As relative self advice to self observations to advise self what self awareness, natural human conditions for self survival urges self to become aware of?

    Meaning of...if science on Earth claims and this is Earth in its beginnings, then quote would be, this is what Earth will look like after your experiments cause it. Isn't gaining sink holes enough evidence for science to say I am wrong.....rather than your fake science quote...I have not yet learnt.
     
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