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The Pitifully Flawed, Unreliable Judgment Behind Voting for Trump for "No War"

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Debater Slayer, Jan 7, 2020.

  1. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...

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    Buttery males!
     
  2. PureX

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    Since warmongering was not the real reason they wouldn't vote for Hillary, Trump's warmongering, nor any of his other many lies and false promises will dissuade them. They voted for Trump because he's a republican. That's it. They believe republicans are good for their stock portfolios, or they believe republicans will punish and humiliate "liberals" who they hate because they believe liberals hate them. And neither of these beliefs are effected by ANYTHING Trump does or doesn't do.
     
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  3. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    Plenty of people did. It was, you know, obvious and ululant.

    At this point I would be surprised if it did.
     
  4. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    I'm starting to wonder on just who's side some people are on.

    News flash. We have been at war in the middle east since those sub human losers ran planes into the world trade center.

    It's high time the the entire Middle gets a makeover anyways. Besides Americans are safer now that the 'beloved' general is gone. Trump did a service to Americans and sent a strong message as well.

    At least he stands up to them and tells them to don't **** with Americans. I'm sure the families that general killed are very very grateful to Trump.

    Not to mention Israel, our strongest ally.

    Netanyahu Praises Trump’s Assassination of Soleimani
     
  5. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    No. We voted for Trump because he's not a pathetic limp piece of celery like the socialist Democrats are.
     
  6. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Or stall for time while our enemies are essentially allowed to get stronger and even more dangerous.

    I'm so grateful the socialist Democrats are not in charge.
     
  7. ImmortalFlame

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    Who was it who killed Bin Laden, again?
     
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  8. Stevicus

    Stevicus Veteran Member
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    I see what you're saying, but this is not something that Trump personally caused. Our foreign and military policies have been essentially the same for several decades. Trump's main fault is in following the precedents set by his predecessors in terms of foreign policy. He claimed he would be different, that he would "drain the swamp," but he ended up still following the swamp-inspired foreign policy that all the others have followed.

    It's still Trump's fault for what he's doing, but I reject the suggestion that he's any different than anyone else would have been.
     
  9. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Nobody was complaining. Nobody should be complaining about what Trump decided now.

    As to the specifics of your question....

    Robert J O'Neill
     
  10. ImmortalFlame

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    The point is that you're wrong about Democrats.

    Admit it.
     
  11. Audie

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    We’d hope so.
     
  12. Audie

    Audie Veteran Member

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    Really. Then why did you go off talking about other things
    and never mention what you are ostensibly talking about.

    Of course, btw, it “could have been avoided”.
    The USA could have avoided war with Japan too.
    You could avoid paying taxes.
     
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    Audie Veteran Member

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    The drama queen lingo is noted- vicious venom corrupt demonize disastrous.
     
  14. tytlyf

    tytlyf The Mind's Eye

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    The MIC controls the republican party. That's why they like wars ($$).
    I told republicans long before the election their 'Hillary hawk" fantasies were nothing compared to the republican party. If people would look at history, there wouldn't be a discussion.
     
  15. BSM1

    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    I actually slept all night and I may have missed it, but what embassy did Trump attack?
     
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    Iran is dangerous. The U.S. cannot just let Iran do whatever it wants without consequences.

    ...Doesn't matter who's president. It's the U.S. military generals who advise presidents, and they are the experts.
     
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    Surely we shouldn't drain out our military leadership. Should we?

    ...My gut instinct tells me that's a really bad idea.
     
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    "MIC" is just derogatory terminology for our military leadership. Eisenhower was wrong.
     
  19. Shadow Wolf

    Shadow Wolf Rival's Wife

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    I get that. How can you expect a bully who did encourage violence to not go to war?
     
  20. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Rival's Creepy Uncle
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    Oh, dear....I've a foe incapable of error.
    Well, that explains some things.

    If you're so well informed of my "dubious" stances, why
    not state one to challenge? Make it a real discussion.
    But no....you offer naught but vague generality.
    Come on.....at least try to be interesting.
    I'm describing your tone.
    Your OP was personal invective devoid of addressing serious issues.
    This is wrong, & I stated why.

    I've analyzed & vigorously opposed the risk of war from Trump's policies.
    But you're silent on that. Instead, you fulminate over my supporting actions
    which I specifically & repeatedly oppose. Tis as though you don't even read.
     
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