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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Riders, Apr 19, 2019.

  1. sooda

    sooda Veteran Member
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    As in Josephus?

    or,

    The Piso Family and the Story of The Bible
    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_piso.htm
    "The New Testament, the Church, and Christianity, were all the creation of the Calpurnius Piso family, who were Roman aristocrats. The New Testament and all the characters in it - Jesus, all the Josephs, all the Marys, all the disciples, apostles, Paul, and John the Baptist - are all fictional."
     
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    yes The video does say Pagan or Roman leaders wrote the bible the Flaviuns I think that were Greek, but I could be wrong it could be Roman, but rest assured it was written by Pagan leadership, I would not doubt a Roman family was responsible.
     
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    Its not a good video.
     
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    My comments were based on his book of the same title.
     
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    Professor Bruno Bauer, in his work of 1877 "Christ and the Caesars", stated that he had concluded that the Romans had authored the New Testament and that Flavius Josephus was the inventor of Jesus.

    James Ballantyne Hannay next wrote about the Roman authorship of the New Testament in his 1925 work "The Rise, Decline & Fall of the Roman Religion (Christianity)."
    Abelard Reuchlin found the key to unraveling just who the actual authors were, and that the authors were to be found in the Roman Piso family, who were a part of the Piso/Flavian dynasty. He authored a booklet that came out in 1979 and is available from The Roman Piso Homepage.

    In 2003 Joseph Atwill discovered that the Roman emperor Titus Flavius, working with Flavius Josephus and other authors in his patrimony wrote the New Testament.

    Atwill deduced this by comparing The 'Judean War' to the New Testament. The 'Judean War', written by Flavius Josephus, was originally part of the Christian Bible, and was removed around 1100 CE.

    'The Roman Origin of Christianity', released as 'Caesar's Messiah' by Joseph Atwill documents the creation of the New Testament as a Roman satire devised to win over Judean dissidents by deceiving them into believing that the emperor Titus Flavius Vespasiani was Jesus!

    I know, it sounds strange, but that seems to be the way it was. Titus took great pleasure in calling himself "the greatest forger in history."

    https://www.quora.com/Was-Christian...lavian-Emperors-or-by-the-Emperor-Constantine
     
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    Yes the movie says something similar to that and I believe it.They were selling Paganism to Jews bottom line.
     
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    Why are you calling it paganism?
     
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    You're right that Harpur didn't do a good job because he used outdated sources. I've been able to verify that there is a lot of parallels between Egyptian and Christian religion by reading academic/scholarly sources though. So his overall point was correct, he just didn't back it up well with good scholars.

    Here's just one quote from a recent Egyptologist that agrees with Egyptian and Christian parallels:

    Gifts from The Pharaohs: How Ancient Egyptian Civilization Shaped the Modern World(2007) by Christiane Desroches Noblecourt
    https://www.amazon.com/Gifts-Pharaohs-Ancient-Egyptian-Civilization/dp/208030562X
     
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    This is about the Roman aristocracy inventing Christianity.

    Story of Jesus Christ was 'fabricated to pacify the poor ...
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    Oct 10, 2013 · Story of Jesus Christ was 'fabricated to pacify the poor', claims controversial Biblical scholar. Joseph Atwill, who is the author of a book entitled 'Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus', asserts that Christianity did not begin as a religion, but was actually a sophisticated government propaganda exercise used to pacify the subjects of the Roman Empire.
     
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    Yeah, I've heard of that book but don't know much about it.
     
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    I don't either..

    "The New Testament, the Church, and Christianity, were all the creation of the Calpurnius Piso family,

    who were Roman aristocrats.

    The New Testament and all the characters in it - Jesus, all the Josephs, all the Marys, all the disciples, apostles,

    Paul, and John the Baptist - are all fictional."

    Abelard Reuchlin

    from The True Authorship of the New Testament

    "How well we know what a profitable superstition
    this fable of Christ has bee for us"

    Pope Leo X (1513-1521)

    Tony Bushby

    from The Bible Fraud

    The Piso Family and the Story of The Bible
     
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    You might like to read a thread I started some time ago. The book I cited was written by a Baha'i scholar:
    How Paul changed the course of Christianity
     
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    That is too much, and no Letter or Gospel-Book written by Jesus and he was a trained , intelligent and wise Rabbi of Jews.
    It speaks a lot. Paul was a dead enemy of the "Sheep" as well the "Sheppard", he Himself admitted. He employed the technique of "Love and Sales" and harmed them both in another way, when Jesus migrated or took asylum to a peaceful abode in a land of natural fountains a heaven on Earth and died a natural death at the age of about 120 years, leaving wife/s and children. He survived a cursed death on Cross against all odds and refused to be a god and or son-of-god in physical and material sense. Right, please?
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    I will have a look into it for sure, please.
    Regards
     
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    I have no idea what you are trying to say.
     
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    Romans were Pagan, the creation of the Godman is Pagan.
     
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