The origin of man

[Estro Felino]

Well...firstly I will underline that I want this thread to be constructive and pacific. I just want to figure out how many Christians (or whoever believes in the God's Bible) think that man was created from dirt. That is, Go took dirt and formed a man, as if it was a clay sculpture.

This video shows what I mean
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all right...there is lots of irony in that video. I think it's unfair, because everyone has the right to believe in what they want to

 

[Viker]

That would actually be easier to explain than how a woman came from a man's rib. We are all made of the primordial stuff from the universe and planet.

 

[Estro Felino]

well...as a Christian I've started to doubt the story of Adam and Eve when I was 8.
When I was 14 , I was already convinced that they never existed. And when I was 17, I finally accepted evolution as the official answer of the question: "where human beings come from".

But I do respect all the people who believe in the Genesis tale. Even my mother believes in it

 

[Viker]

I respect them as well. Not all believers and creationists are biblical literalists.

 

[oldbadger]

We are made from dust.
Stardust.
The biblical description is a brilliant metaphorical description of the truth.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

We are made from dust.
Stardust.
The biblical description is a brilliant metaphorical description of the truth.

:yes:

 

[Sunstone]

Humans were not created. They evolved. Learn which century this is.

 

[oldbadger]

:yes:

Hi Saint.
I never have understood why some intelligentsia have so much difficulty with Genesis.

Next thing you know they will be scorning the way that our kindergarten specialists teach infants.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Humans were not created. They evolved. Learn which century this is.

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[Estro Felino]

We are made from dust.
Stardust.
The biblical description is a brilliant metaphorical description of the truth.

well...I don't know what you exactly mean by stardust...but we are made of organic matter. That is, we are made of carbon molecules and consequently our tissues are capable of decay.
When we die, our body is biodegradable. Stones aren't...
so we are certainly not made of stardust, or whatever it is

 

[oldbadger]

well...I don't know what you exactly mean by stardust...but we are made of organic matter. That is, we are made of carbon molecules and consequently our tissues are capable of decay.
When we die, our body is biodegradable. Stones aren't...
so we are certainly not made of stardust, or whatever it is

Hay..... we are made from Stardust.
The carbon atoms which compose our bodies were produced in the hearts of mega stars, millions of times larger than our Sun. And when these mega-stars died in explosions they spewed it out into space where it collected and formed solar systems like ours.

Litle suns like ours can only produce Helium, Hydrogen and tiny amounts of silicates, I believe.


We - are - stardust.

 

[Sunstone]

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Give that more thought, please. Say, a year or two.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Give that more thought, please. Say, a year or two.

As if I haven't been thinking about it already. I'm not sure what "realization" you expect me to have, but the point still stands.

 

[Estro Felino]

Hay..... we are made from Stardust.
The carbon atoms which compose our bodies were produced in the hearts of mega stars, millions of times larger than our Sun. And when these mega-stars died in explosions they spewed it out into space where it collected and formed solar systems like ours.

Litle suns like ours can only produce Helium, Hydrogen and tiny amounts of silicates, I believe.

We - are - stardust.

well..now you have clarified it. Of course our molecules are made of those chemical elements which originated from stars.

 

[Sunstone]

As if I haven't been thinking about it already. I'm not sure what "realization" you expect me to have, but the point still stands.

What I'm pointing to is a realization that does not usually come easy to us humans. Maybe you're smarter than the rest of us though, and know everything.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What I'm pointing to is a realization that does not usually come easy to us humans. Maybe you're smarter than the rest of us though, and know everything.

Are you in a bad mood tonight or something?

 

[Sunstone]

Are you in a bad mood tonight or something?

Yes...

 

[oldbadger]

As if I haven't been thinking about it already. ...........................

...so have the physicists and astronomers. And as our minimal knowledge increases from their tireless efforts, so we continuously find an initial 'creation' event which can neither be explained nor discarded.

I'll bet that other universes are discovered within twenty years, and from astro calculations concerning galaxies moving strangely, it looks like my bet is safe. Thus the creation event retreats from us as we stagger towards it.

We think we are bright........ Nah!

Big G is something else.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yess....

Sorry, buddy. Hope things get better for you.

 

[Sunstone]

Sorry, buddy. Hope things get better for you.

It's nothing. But thanks!