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The Op Ed: Whodunit ?
- Thread starter Jayhawker Soule
- Start date
I think it is Pence. I thought so before I learned of the use of the word "lodestar".
The writer is terribly alienated, feels only the barest of desires to expose Trump's ineptness, seems to be literally unable of accepting anything resembling a progressive policy, and does not realize or does not care that he is enabling the very trends that made Trump possible in the first place.
In other words, he earned Trump's ear and trust, from what I can figure of Trump's own judgement.
Yet he is also enough of a functioning human being to realize that the worst, most obvious excesses must be stopped before tragedy happens, And he paints himself as a freedom fighter as opposed to an enabler of disgrace.
That is a pretty restricted space, and Pence is the most obvious person to exist in it.
The writer is terribly alienated, feels only the barest of desires to expose Trump's ineptness, seems to be literally unable of accepting anything resembling a progressive policy, and does not realize or does not care that he is enabling the very trends that made Trump possible in the first place.
In other words, he earned Trump's ear and trust, from what I can figure of Trump's own judgement.
Yet he is also enough of a functioning human being to realize that the worst, most obvious excesses must be stopped before tragedy happens, And he paints himself as a freedom fighter as opposed to an enabler of disgrace.
That is a pretty restricted space, and Pence is the most obvious person to exist in it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
If it wasn't Pence, it was someone who took some time to figure out how to make it look like him, and it's more than just the use of the word lodestar.
I also think it was Pence. And I think the truth will come out before the midterms, one way or the other.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Is Pence unaware of his rather unique use of the word "lodestar"? If I was a staffer and wanted to switch the attention from me a use of such a word could cause a much needed distraction.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
What a mess that could make. If it was Pence there would be massive pressure from Trump for him to resign. It could only hurt the party even more. At least it keeps politics interesting.
Perhaps. Or perhaps you are giving them too much credit.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I would hope that those running our country are not that dense. unfortunately that hope has been dashed far too often with this administration.
Its hard for me to believe that the author did not give a good deal of thought to his/her formulations, fully expecting them to be analyzed by a crazed President and a world of pundits alike. "Lodestar" strikes me as too easy a tell.
Duke_Leto
Active Member
I personally doubt that it's true, or that it came from anyone of importance; that is, it could be some clerk or intern who wrote this, trying to make as much a stir as possible, if not a writer at the NYT.
It's written to cause a buzz. It says nothing substantial. It's just the latest installation of the media circus surrounding Trump.
It's written to cause a buzz. It says nothing substantial. It's just the latest installation of the media circus surrounding Trump.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Pence isn't exactly what I would consider bright.Downplaying the dangers of tobacco smoking, going before the state senate to denounce and disprove evolution as "just a theory," and trying to keep same-sex marriage out of Indiana even after the Supreme Court overturned Indiana's law and after the SC legalized same-sex marriage in all 50 states.
lukethethird
unknown member
Who wants to know?
Skwim
Veteran Member
Considering the stories of his reaction to the piece Trump certainly didn't think it was "nothing substantial."
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I can't help but remember that the NYT prefaced the piece by stating that they know who the contributor is, and that they know the contributor to be a "senior official" in the Trump admin. The Times might hate Trump for calling them "failing" all the time, but I doubt that they would tell a lie of that magnitude in so prominent a place.
Probably no one... If I wanted to make chaos for the White House I'd just invent a mole. So, that's the most likely case. 
I mean it's far more fun to make them scramble for an imaginary mole than there to really be one. Of course, then that makes Bob Woodward's material even more bull**** as well as the op-ed post.
I mean it's far more fun to make them scramble for an imaginary mole than there to really be one. Of course, then that makes Bob Woodward's material even more bull**** as well as the op-ed post.
And you know all of this, in your great wisdom, how exactly?Probably no one... If I wanted to make chaos for the White House I'd just invent a mole. So, that's the most likely case.
I mean it's far more fun to make them scramble for an imaginary mole than there to really be one. Of course, then that makes Bob Woodward's material even more bull**** as well as the op-ed post.
Duke_Leto
Active Member
Trump reacts to everything. I don't think it means anything.
They wouldn't do it out of spite as much as they would for attention and publicity. And, sure, it would be brazen to lie, but since they don't plan on revealing the source anytime soon, who's going to call them on it?
Who's going to call them on it? Well, the Administration itself pops quickly to mind, and as I recall they do have some resources....