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Respectfully, I suggest that the question is (cognitively) meaningless. What the hell is a "true faith"?jewscout said:Is there one true faith for all of mankind?
Good question Deut! Perhaps those who believe they are a part of this "true faith" can explain that to us!Deut. 32.8 said:Respectfully, I suggest that the question is (cognitively) meaningless. What the hell is a "true faith"?
You'd do well to address them separately.chuck010342 said:I guess I can use this thread as my "letter to the relativist/agnostic thread"
Verifiable and not necessitating confirmation bias to be deemed probative.chuck010342 said:What kind of evidence would you like ...?
"WHAT is truth?" (John 18:38) That question, cynically posed by Pontius Pilate nearly 2,000 years ago, implies that truth is too elusive to be pursued. Many today would agree. The very nature of truth is under attack. You may have heard it said that everyone makes his own truth, or that truth is relative, or that truth is ever changing. Such reasoning is flawed. The very goal of research and education is to learn the facts, the truth, about the world in which we live. Truth is not a matter of personal opinion. For example, either the human soul is immortal or it is not. Either Satan exists or he does not. Either there is a purpose to life or there is not. In each case, there can be only one correct answer. One is true, and the other is false; both cannot be true.jewscout said:I hear certain people talk about having "truth". Is there one true faith for all of mankind? If so what evidence can you show that this is so? (and if you give me the, because G-d said so thing don't bother, anyone can say that...give me something more)
Yes, I have to agree faith is neither TRUST or TRUTH.Duet. 32:8 Respectfully, I suggest that the question is (cognitively) meaningless. What the hell is a "true faith"?
There are some pretty profound answers to the question, "What is truth?", but those answers don't necessarily apply to the often peculiar ways that the word "truth" is used in religious contexes.may said:"WHAT is truth?" (John 18:38) That question, cynically posed by Pontius Pilate nearly 2,000 years ago, implies that truth is too elusive to be pursued. Many today would agree. The very nature of truth is under attack. You may have heard it said that everyone makes his own truth, or that truth is relative, or that truth is ever changing. Such reasoning is flawed. The very goal of research and education is to learn the facts, the truth, about the world in which we live. Truth is not a matter of personal opinion. For example, either the human soul is immortal or it is not. Either Satan exists or he does not. Either there is a purpose to life or there is not. In each case, there can be only one correct answer. One is true, and the other is false; both cannot be true.
jewscout said:What kind of evidence hmmmm...i don't know, aside for the "because G-d said so" what have you got Chuck? I'm open to whatever...
Deut. 32.8 said:You'd do well to address them separately.
Verifiable and not necessitating confirmation bias to be deemed probative.
interesting...then how do we determine which is "true" and which isn't?chuck010342 said:Well your not open to whatever because you rulled out the bible. Jesus said "I am the way the light and the truth." But this statement is rulled out because I can't use the bible. The bible is where I get the "because God said so"
So I would have to argue from the laws of logic.
One such law is the law of non-countradiction.
How can two faiths be true if they countradict eachother?
Sunstone said:Before you get too far into "relativism", Chuck, you might begin by defining what you believe "relativism" to be.
may said:"WHAT is truth?" (John 18:38) That question, cynically posed by Pontius Pilate nearly 2,000 years ago, implies that truth is too elusive to be pursued. Many today would agree. The very nature of truth is under attack. You may have heard it said that everyone makes his own truth, or that truth is relative, or that truth is ever changing. Such reasoning is flawed. The very goal of research and education is to learn the facts, the truth, about the world in which we live. Truth is not a matter of personal opinion. For example, either the human soul is immortal or it is not. Either Satan exists or he does not. Either there is a purpose to life or there is not. In each case, there can be only one correct answer. One is true, and the other is false; both cannot be true.
But which is it?may said:"WHAT is truth?" (John 18:38) That question, cynically posed by Pontius Pilate nearly 2,000 years ago, implies that truth is too elusive to be pursued. Many today would agree. The very nature of truth is under attack. You may have heard it said that everyone makes his own truth, or that truth is relative, or that truth is ever changing. Such reasoning is flawed. The very goal of research and education is to learn the facts, the truth, about the world in which we live. Truth is not a matter of personal opinion. For example, either the human soul is immortal or it is not. Either Satan exists or he does not. Either there is a purpose to life or there is not. In each case, there can be only one correct answer. One is true, and the other is false; both cannot be true.