There's no irrational hatred on the Right, Ken?
Do you think people on the Right are more intelligent than people on the Left?
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The Non-existent Voter Fraud.
- Thread starter Kenny
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There's no irrational hatred on the Right, Ken?
Do you think people on the Right are more intelligent than people on the Left?
Is that what you got out of what I said?
Let me ask two questions... after a Right rally, how many businesses were burnt down?
After a Left rally, how many businesses were burnt down?
It isn't that the right doesn't have more intelligence nor is it that there aren't any "right" irrational hatred... but we are talking generally speaking (or so I thought)
Yes, which is why I asked to clarify.
Exceedingly few, in both cases.
Oh good. So if we're speaking generally, then it's undeniable that voter fraud is a minor issue that is quite rare relative to the number of votes cast. There is zero evidence of any general partisan trend in the voter fraud that does happen. Sometimes people on the Right do it, sometimes people on the Left do it.
Right Ken?
We will have to disagree. Atlanta, Bakersville, Boston, Chicago, Dallas/Ft Worth, Des Moines, Denver, Detroit, District of Columbia, Houston, Louisville, Los Angeles, Memphis, Minneapolis, New York City, Phoenix, Portland, Sacramento - wouldn't call that "few".
Again, I disagree. Zero evidence is to deny the dead people voting, Zero evidence is to deny
Database Swells to 1,285 Proven Cases of Voter Fraud in America
And, at this point, these are only that which were discovered. Until we really have a "ballot by ballot" count and verification... we will ultimately just ignore the elephant in the room.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Pro-life?
President Trump? Really?
Generally speaking, yes, as compared to "abortions until 9 months". (I'm sure you can find exceptions)
- Ended funding of groups that perform and promote abortion overseas
- Appointed pro-life judges
- Signed a resolution that allows states to end Planned Parenthood’s family planning funding
- Defunded the pro-abortion United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA)
- Required health insurance companies to reveal plans that cover abortion.
- New rules regarding HHS contraceptive mandate
- New Office for Conscience Protection at HHS
- Established that abortion is not family planning
- Ending taxpayer-funded research using bodies of aborted babies
- Clarified abortion is not a civil right
- Signed executive order protecting infants born alive
So, generally speaking, I would say yes.
I live in Sacramento. Zero buildings here were "burnt down," that I know of. I would be willing to bet that if we went through each city you mention, you are likely exaggerating.
I thought we were speaking generally, Ken?
Do you know how many ballots were cast across the country in this election?
Over 150,000,000.
So 1,285 proven cases represent 0.0009% of ballots cast.
Again, if we're speaking generally Ken, there is no rational way to claim that voter fraud is a widespread large problem.
You're arguing by ignorance. Sorry, that dog don't hunt.
I'm sorry if I didn't get 1 out of ten right... Sacramento was just throwing stuff (water bottles et al). But nice way to sidestep the reality it wasn't just "a few"
Ohhhh... so you believe we caught them all... right....
If we are speaking generally... then I am generally correct! Not to mention where there were more votes than people, where they didn't certify results in one county because of discrepancies, where they canned one set of votes because of fraud but not the same ballots that dealt with the presidency.
Let's just close our eyes and say "Nothing is happening, nothing is happening, nothing...."
Yes, when you don't want to see it... that is a good answer.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Every fake RW election conspiracy is debunked in this video. It's not a biased video.
I wouldn't trust your sources one bit.
Skip to 2:18 to begin the debunking caravan.
As far as I know you didn't get any right, because you didn't put up any evidence. You just rattled off a list of random cities where there were protests. It was just easy for me to fact check one obvious one, since I live here.
The truth, generally, is that few buildings were lit on fire at all, let alone burned to the ground, relative to the number of protests/protestors.
So I didn't sidestep anything. You exagerrated. As I said.
Even if there are 100 times more cases than your link mentions, we're still talking about a fraction of a percent of total votes.
So again, there's no rational way to say generally that voter fraud is some large-scale problem.
No, sir. You are not.
This is fake news you're parroting from Trump.
Fact check: Trump's bogus claim of more votes in Detroit than people
I don't think any state has officially certified results yet, have they?
Sounds like more fake news. And likely too low a number to influence the presidential outcome, as we've seen with near all the Trump lawsuits that are getting thrown out left and right by the courts because they are so absurd.
Oh no no no Ken. Something is definitely happening. Millions of people are gullibly listening to a pathological liar who has been claiming the election was "rigged" since 4 years ago, even though that time he won it.
When you have actual evidence (not anecdote, actual evidence of widespread, large-scale voter fraud), put it up.
But you don't. Because you've tried in thread after thread here for weeks, and everything has been much ado about nothing, time after time after time. And the evidence is logically explained to you, time after time after time. But you keep on going with silly anecdotal non-controversies as though they prove something.
They don't.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
So you are not talking about early, rape or health abortions.
OK.
ecco
Veteran Member
Of course, that is only applications so we KNOW it doesn't mean that there are fraudulent votes coming into the system.Because voter fraud doesn't happen.
I wonder how many people don't get caught?
In 2016, candidate Donald J. Trump announced that the only way he could lose the election was if there was voter fraud. Trump won. Since he won, he must have been convinced that there was no voter fraud.
In 2020, candidate Donald J. Trump announced that the only way he could lose the election was if there was voter fraud. Trump lost. Since he lost, he is convinced that there was massive voter fraud.
I realize that his SCOTUS appointees mean more to you than anything else. But you never expressed any disgust at his dangerous egomania, so I guess you're OK with that part of him too.
I think there have been several threads that have shown there is much more hatred on the Republican Sheeple side than on the Dem side.
Basically. Health natural abortions or even on purpose abortions because a life is at stake are completely acceptable (and I don't know of any people that wouldn't agree - unless they are completely radical)
We haven't discussed egomania. That is always dangerous and I praise God for a 3 equally shared government to keep egomanias at bay. (You don't have to try to put words in my mouth
)I think there was fraud in #1 too... but we definitely weren't in position to address. Swamp people would have swamped it.
OK... we can agree to disagree.... I still don't see burning of buildings and cars and desecrating monuments, personal properties et al by the right... although I'm sure you can find maybe 1 or 2.
In either case... emotions run high - intelligence runs low
ecco
Veteran Member
Originalist and Constitutionalist as in no votes for women.
Originalist and Constitutionalist as in partial votes for blacks.
Originalist and Constitutionalist as in not prohibiting slavery.
Oh, did you have something else in mind when you touted Originalist and Constitutionalist?
No, not pro-life. Anti-abortion. Unless you are also in favor of eliminating the death penalty, which is something Dems are for.
Who and how have your religious freedoms been restricted?
Reduction of taxes without reduction in Government is nonsense. What government reductions accompanied Trump's tax cut? What ever happened to the fiscally conservative Republicans who were concerned about the national debt?
If governmental expenditures are not reduced and taxes are cut the debt goes up. It's no different for the government than it is for your church.
When Trump took office, there was no valid reason to cut taxes except to get the sheeples to vote for the Repubs.
As in ... the original intent of 15th Amendment or the Constitution as it adjusted and clarified all other parts of the Constitution.
WASHINGTON, D.C., July 27, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) ― On Friday, the United States Supreme Court declined to intervene on behalf of a Nevada church challenging the state’s ban on religious gatherings of more than 50 people while casinos are allowed to fill with thousands as long as they are at 50 percent capacity.
Cannot help the poor:
Florida official tells Christian charity to choose between Jesus and cheese
Cannot have an adoption agency
Catholic Charities Forced to Shut Down Services around the Country - U.S. News - News - Catholic Online
et al
ecco
Veteran Member
From your link...
LAWCOMMENTARY
Database Swells to 1,285 Proven Cases of Voter Fraud in America
Kaitlynn Samalis-Aldrich / Hans von Spakovsky / @HvonSpakovsky / May 09, 2020
Kaitlynn Samalis-Aldrich / Hans von Spakovsky / @HvonSpakovsky / May 09, 2020
First off, the website is radically right as can be seen from this comment:
The left is actively working to undermine the integrity of our elections. Read the plan to stop them now.
Then there is this...
Just look at the 2018 congressional race in North Carolina that was overturned by the state election board.
But Wait! Here is the actual story:
GOP operative Leslie McCrae Dowless was arrested in February 2017 and charged with illegal ballot handling and obstruction of justice. New charges were filed Tuesday.
It wasn't the left actively working to undermine the integrity of our 2020 elections.
It was a Republican sleazbag who got caught.
But, let's go to the headline- 1,285 proven instances of voter fraud. The article doesn't specify a time period in which those 1285 proven instances of voter fraud occurred. Is it 1285 out of 150,000,000 cast in the 2020 election? Is it 1285 out of 300,000,000 cast in 2016 & 2020 election? How may more votes were cast in 2018? What's the percentage? 4.28e-6. That is way less than .00001%.
Why do you allow yourself to be so easily manipulated? Take the time to actually read the article before you link to it. You can avoid embarrassing yourself over and over.
ecco
Veteran Member
If it has been "adjusted and clarified" it is no longer the "original intent". If you are OK with Original Intent being Adjusted and Clarified, then you are not for supporting the Original Version.
I disagree, a twisting of what it means.
Original intent is to look at history and find out what the intent of the law for today. Amendment 15 is PART of the Constitution... and finding its original intent is what it means.