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The Non-existent Voter Fraud.

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by KenS, Nov 17, 2020.

  1. KenS

    KenS Veteran Member
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    Of course, we know that it isn't real and only localized because there are only a .000001 percent of the population that have that mentality.

    Pair Charged With Voter Fraud Over Scheme Involving Homeless And Voter Registration Forms | The Daily Wire

    "8,000 fraudulent voter registration applications"

    Of course, that is only applications so we KNOW it doesn't mean that there are fraudulent votes coming into the system. ;) Because voter fraud doesn't happen.

    I wonder how many people don't get caught?
     
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    who made the claim that voter fraud doesn't happen?


    I actually posted on a thread last week, or the one before, noting how bad fraud was in eastern ky; which is a Republican stronghold.
     
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    :shrug:

    So the system worked and stopped these folks from voter fraud. None of the votes were counted.

    If someone starts crying about voter fraud, they need to present proof that fraud wasn't only committed, but that it actually influenced the election... On a massive scale.

    Even if all 8,000 votes were counted and accepted, it still wouldn't have changed the outcome anyways since it happened in a blue state.

    Meh... I'm not convinced of anything deeper than that. Seems like weak sauce.
     
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  5. shunyadragon

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    'Arguing from ignorance' is a fallacy that does not justify a political agenda.

    They caught fraud, and this happens all the time. It does not mean there are more boogeymen in the closet.

    DHS cybersecurity chief Chris Krebs was terminated by Trump for being honest and honorable concerning the fact that Trumps claims were false.
     
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  6. Orbit

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    You need to choose better media sources.
     
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  7. KenS

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    Obviously, not you. :)
     
  8. Lyndon

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    Massive fraud by the Daily wire, undercounts California residents by 8 million, 39.5 million people live in Calif, not 31.5 million. If they can't count, their whole story is in doubt!
     
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    I wonder how many people fraudulently voted for Trump? Because voter fraud happens constantly, right?
     
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  10. Lyndon

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    Its only voter fraud if they vote for Biden, if they vote for Trump its perfectly legit??
     
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  11. sun rise

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    I would have labeled it a 'strawman' fallacy since the subject of the thread is not one that anyone holds. Instead I think most of us think that the right is committing true voter fraud by suppressing and challenging voters including constructing artificial barriers to exercising this fundamental right.
     
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    On Thursday, September 17th, 2020 the Department of Justice, U.S. Attorney’s Office, Eastern District of Pennsylvania reported:


    I wonder how many pastors don't get caught.

    Surely too many. Surely we should look upon the small pastor class with deep suspicion and contempt. Any one of us could find other examples, examples rarely the focus of mainstream media.

    Is it really possible to invest too much effort into relentless campaigns aimed at vetting every single member of this group?

    Or perhaps, just perhaps, all of the above is little more than a vile example of the vilest form of muckraking, a smear technique no less ugly when used in a thoughtless, disingenuous, and irresponsible attempt to smear a democratic election. And perhaps "exposing" pastor pedophilia and voter fraud is, in truth, nothing more than a lie when not coupled with the caveat noting that, while abhorrent, both aberrations constitute noise-level phenomena.

    By the way, what do you do for a living? I voted by mail.
     
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    The article specifically addresses Trump's wide spread claim mentioned in the first sentence.

    As Donald Trump and his allies continue to insist widespread voter fraud happened in the 2020 election, a new investigation by The New York Times found no evidence of voter fraud in any of the 50 state.
     
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    Where?

    Perhaps you meant this from the NYT, written Nick Corasaniti, Reid J. Epstein and Jim Rutenberg, and published Nov. 10, 2020 and updated Nov. 17, 2020:

    The Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud

    The president and his allies have baselessly claimed that rampant voter fraud stole victory from him. Officials contacted by The Times said that there were no irregularities that affected the outcome. ... [emphasis added - JS]​
     
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    Those that don't get caught are never counted.

    Hmm. Makes me wonder where I heard that along similar lines.
     
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    Since America is now great again, as promised, we should not see practices common in banana republics, which are not that great. Including voting frauds, and presidents not accepting democratic results. But I am just a European outsider, so maybe I am missing something, about this newly re-acquired greatness.

    Ciao

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  18. oldbadger

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    I remember watching Trump (on BBC News) telling his followers how he thought that folks can cheat and suggesting that they might do so as well because the wicked Dems would.

    Do you trust Trump as a person and a President? Really?
     
  19. KenS

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    When there is a irrational hatred, I would have to argue that the probabilities like on the democratic side. As emotions run high, intelligence runs low.
     
  20. KenS

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    My context has always been... Trump vs what other good choice?

    Lacking a better choice, I will follow platform...

    1) Originalist and Constitutionalist judges
    2) Pro-life
    3) Pro freedom of religion and not freedom from religion
    4) Pro reduction of taxes and government

    et al.

    Not that any party will do that perfectly but generally speaking.
     
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