Curious George
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Well it is possible to be hurt by oneself.
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The myths of Genesis
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Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
Credit where it's due; I'd say genesis has proved to be a remarkably accurate summary of the orgins of the universe and life, but it's not meant to be a scientific cheat sheet- the details are for us to explore and learn about- what better way to appreciate creation?
So we are given the free will to believe or not, to be wrong, without which finding truth has no meaning.
Now that is profound. Something that I inferred from written words.
Curious George
Veteran Member
No. The concept that no god exists is definitely something. I am not claiming as some atheists do, that I lack belief. I fully acknowledge my belief that no god exists.
He knew very little, truth is well defined
Truth : the quality or state of being true in accordance with fact or reality
accuracy, correctness, rightness, validity, factualness,
factualty, authenticity
Would you include the BB theory in that, only accepting what can be proven?
Curious George
Veteran Member
Do I sense hostility? I meant to point out that there is a difference between written words being self referential and the the deduction that they are self referential.
Atheism : disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Other than that all bets are off.
Absolutely agree. God said He created the universe, let science explain the details.
Skeptic:
- a person inclined to question or doubt all accepted opinions.
synonyms: cynic · doubter · pessimist · prophet of doom
an ancient or modern philosopher who denies the possibility of knowledge, or even rational belief, in some sphere.
It would appear that you can be a skeptic with a closed mind as much as a believer can be the same. It this case, it would appear that you aren't open minded to believing that a believer can have an open mind.
The bb theory(s) are theories. That's why they are called theories.
The reason for the (s) is there are 28 bb theories that i know of, there may be more.
Nope, i created it. There, i said it, now what?
I agree, there were no "books" until perhaps the second or third century if I recall correctly. Therefore, the verse would seem to apply to all Judeo-Christian writings concerning prophecy, not limited to Revelation.
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
Ditto, and as recovering atheists, we are both very familiar with what atheist beliefs are, we are just able to recognize those beliefs as such now, as opposed to unquestionable truths
Any assumption of default truth, inevitably = assumption of inherent intellectual superiority over people with different beliefs, i.e. it's not really their fault!
Curious George
Veteran Member
yet as an atheist I recognize how beliefs differ from other people claiming to be atheists. This seems a contradictory experience to yours. How can we reconcile our contradictory experiences?
Curious George
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evilsorcerer1
Member
The Creation of Man and Woman – not true.
I believe the creation story wasn’t accurate. It seems much more likely to me there were possibly 120 (appx) man and woman pairs each with their own language and land (country) probably all about the same size. I think the serpent was a representation of the authors misconception. One, snakes have 200-400 ribs and two after the serpent caused them to eat it was cursed to crawl on its belly which means it was taller before and possibly had legs and arms which represented people of different nationalities. I do think the fact that each person has 24 (12 sets) may somehow coincide with how many races there are or were. If 240 people were created at once then that would be 10 races or 240 people (24 ribs). But most peoples would probably agree with that theory because no one probably saw anyone for a very long time. Basically I’ve proven to myself that man is completely physical without a soul then the creation of man required the brain and heart to function without a soul. And I think planets and suns had to be formed with wind and fire and elements. But I basically know Jesus never rose from the dead and possibly no one in the Bible ever lived but was all symbolic. For the Bible to have been written by a ‘chosen child of god’ it probably would have to have been written by the first ‘child of God’ to ever exist. And the rib taken out of the woman probably represented the misconception that God is physical and we are made in his likeness. I think the correct way to interpret that would be man was made in his likeness, meaning made in a way that only God could do, in his greatness and awesomeness some might say, which I wouldn’t because I’ve blasphemed God and now am cursed to attempt to be my own God.
I believe the creation story wasn’t accurate. It seems much more likely to me there were possibly 120 (appx) man and woman pairs each with their own language and land (country) probably all about the same size. I think the serpent was a representation of the authors misconception. One, snakes have 200-400 ribs and two after the serpent caused them to eat it was cursed to crawl on its belly which means it was taller before and possibly had legs and arms which represented people of different nationalities. I do think the fact that each person has 24 (12 sets) may somehow coincide with how many races there are or were. If 240 people were created at once then that would be 10 races or 240 people (24 ribs). But most peoples would probably agree with that theory because no one probably saw anyone for a very long time. Basically I’ve proven to myself that man is completely physical without a soul then the creation of man required the brain and heart to function without a soul. And I think planets and suns had to be formed with wind and fire and elements. But I basically know Jesus never rose from the dead and possibly no one in the Bible ever lived but was all symbolic. For the Bible to have been written by a ‘chosen child of god’ it probably would have to have been written by the first ‘child of God’ to ever exist. And the rib taken out of the woman probably represented the misconception that God is physical and we are made in his likeness. I think the correct way to interpret that would be man was made in his likeness, meaning made in a way that only God could do, in his greatness and awesomeness some might say, which I wouldn’t because I’ve blasphemed God and now am cursed to attempt to be my own God.
Altfish
Veteran Member
I always try to
shmogie
Well-Known Member
The man was Jesus Christ, and his question was specifically for you. Tell me of the facts about abiogenesis within the framework of the described and verified reality of the time, being right, authentic and true in what you say.
True, but I'm not being asked to worship those things/people, based on faith, like Christians are asking (expecting) non-believers to do.