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The most reasonable school of thought.

Discussion in 'Seekers Circle' started by Ellen Brown, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. Ellen Brown

    Ellen Brown Sorry, just trying to sort the NONSENSE
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    I hope there is something out there that is smarter than me.
    Being somewhat overfull from eating Salmon, Pasta, and Veggies, and drinking some beer, <10 oz, I am asking myself what life view makes the most sense to me?

    In most belief systems I know of, God comes roaring in and punishes most of us. And, I'm not saying that is false.

    The story that interests me the most is that 70,000 years ago, a sentient Alien research team shows up and starts trying to drag humanity out of a non-thriving mode that they've been stuck in for 100,000 years. The story about that, which I have been reading is at times depressing and I get tearful.

    If I remember correctly there is a phenomenon called Entropy which implies that all systems tend toward disorder.

    In the story, I hope that the guys that have been messing around with humans don't give up. I think that Trump's Entropy is about to do us in.
     
  2. arthra

    arthra Baha'i

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    It may be this was a perspective held some time ago.. maybe centuries ago in legend. I'm reminded of a passage:

    "God is not partial and is no respecter of persons. He has made provision for all. The harvest comes forth for everyone. The rain showers upon everybody and the heat of the sun is destined to warm everyone. The verdure of the earth is for everyone. Therefore there should be for all humanity the utmost happiness, the utmost comfort, the utmost well-being.
    But if conditions are such that some are happy and comfortable and some in misery; some are accumulating exorbitant wealth and others are in dire want -- under such a system it is impossible for man to be happy and impossible for him to win the good pleasure of God. God is kind to all. The good pleasure of God consists in the welfare of all the individual members of mankind."

    ~ Abdu'l-Baha, Foundations of World Unity, p. 41
     
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  3. icehorse

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    Mushroom spores can survive in deep space. I'm fond of the theory that some long time ago, 100,000 years, maybe a million years ago, some magic mushroom spores traveled to earth, landed, grew into shrooms, were eaten by our not-quite-human ancestors, and that sparked us into being humans. Seems like it would be a nice way to spread sentience throughout the universe.
     
  4. sun rise

    sun rise "Love pours forth from the heart of the universe."
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    Those time frames are extremely tiny. I was shocked to learn the really vast timelines thought about in India. How does 155 TRILLION years sound? Much much greater than the life of this universe.

    Age of Universe according to Vedas

    Also, people are reborn 8,400,000 times as human beings before entering the spiritual path. That's well over 200 million years assuming a 25 year lifespan.

    So what's 100,000 years when compared to those numbers?
     
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  5. stvdv

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    I heard that there are 8,400,000 species on earth. I did not know about the same number for being reborn as humans. My first thought is that we go through all these species, before becoming human (and as a human we are entering the spiritual path).

    Do you have a link of this number in relation to being born. Just to check of my thought is correct.
     
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    I don't think it matters what God is, or was. We will very likely never know. I think it only matters what we choose to believe about it. Because what we choose to believe about it will reflect who we are as individuals, and who we will become as we continue living our lives.
     
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  7. Valjean

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    You cite an interesting sounding story and don't tell us its title? I call foul.
     
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  8. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    IMHO, I think that a symptom of this Entropy is when people become so delusional that they start believing that one person can bring about bring about--or even represent--the downfall of civilization as we know it. God help us...
     
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  9. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Ignorant Heathen Libertarian Capitalist
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    Archeologists discover an ancient spacecraft which dates to 100,000 BCE.
    On it is this bumper sticker.
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    @sun rise , @stvdv , animals also are a part of 'karma cycle', although I do not know how roches will gather merit.
     
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  12. Ellen Brown

    Ellen Brown Sorry, just trying to sort the NONSENSE
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    Author is: A.G. Riddle. He has what is now a six book series that begins with "The Atlantis Gene". Good writing, plausible feel to it. Depressing at times.
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Moot question for me, because that's not the varety of reincarnation I believe in. But I would imagine it would be because of his kindness to he brother and sister cockroaches.
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Yeah. That. Lead his brothers and sisters to where food is available, not to fight to get the first or the best share of food, share things with others, help other when they are in trouble, not to trouble she-cockroaches if they are not in the mood, etc. Generally act like a gentleman. :D
     
  17. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    No offense, but it seems someone may have OD'ed on Disney movies...just sayin'.
     
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    It's not a question of "merit" in the usual sense. It's more like fulfilling your function in the larger whole -- your dharma.

    All beings have a place in the vast organism that is life -- call it biosphere, Gaia, ecosphere or whatever. Like a watch, each cog, screw and sprocket contributes to the whole, even if its role isn't immediately apparent.
    Perhaps the escapement wheel is annoyed that the anchor keeps stopping it, but the mechanism as a whole wouldn't work otherwise. You have to look at the big picture.
     
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