Do you think "religious believers" all worship the same god? Out of the 84% of those "religious believers", the ones who qualify as genuine Christians would be a very small percentage indeed. God didn't invent religion or other gods....men did. They fashioned their gods after themselves. They have no beliefs in common with me.
I have no idea what you mean by this.....I agree that all man-made atrocity is wrong.....what on earth are you talking about? Who is justifying an atrocity with "God is my authority"?
Entropy...
."PHYSICS
a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.. . . . lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder."
You are going to have to explain that logically. What you said makes no sense. Since when does a lack of order produce order? The Universe has order so precise that predictions can be made about the movements of the heavenly bodies that will remain predictable for billions of years. How is a planet like ours inevitable when we can see no others like it? What is there to compare it to? What does science really know about the origin of the universe and life itself?
And you are free to hold whatever belief you choose. All of the things that justify belief in an Intelligent Creator are right under our collective noses, but you choose to ignore them, brushing them aside as convenient accidents of "nature". Statistically speaking, how many random accidents of nature can you accommodate and still remain rational?
That depends on what you mean by evidence....I see the 'evidence' produced by science to be a gigantic con job to keep the unbelievers in line. You have a choir of your own regurgitating sound-bites that have no substance.
Until I started to examine evolution, I had no idea how much you guys accept on blind faith. You have to have more faith to accept what science "believes" with such little actual evidence to support it, than we do in what the Bible says.
To each his own I guess.....
I'm afraid that we are not going to get very far, if you feel the need to feign ignorance or rational ineptness. All religions represent a path to some entity that encompasses all of the Omni's attributed to a God. All religions try to explain the purpose of humanity, the origin of creation, the nature of a God, the nature of an afterlife, the consequences of disobedience, and the search for an ultimate reality. It is also by definition, that only ONE God can exist that can possess all the Omni's of a God. Therefore, if a religious believer believes in a God, it can only be the one God by definition. Only the name is changed to denote the culture the God represents. History has clearly demonstrated that it is man that creates God(s), not the other way around.
Your words were, "The message from the Bible is that this world is going to
descend deeper and deeper into unbelief so we see
the world itself is already showing its ungodliness in ways never even imaginable a few decades ago.". My concerns were how this was possible, since the vast majority of people in the world are religious believers? Claiming that they are just not true believers is really not a verifiable or rational response. Also, the religious justifications(God's Laws) for the atrocities during the Salem witch trials, the Crusades, the Reformation, and other Holy Wars throughout history, are not the same justifications used in modern day atrocities(social, economic, or political). Since you haven't established that the Bible's assumptions are correct, I would only be responding to a straw man. But if the world's societies were descending into disbelief and ungodliness, could there be other social/cultural variables that we could consider(economic disparity, racial intolerance, equal opportunity, political oppression, and vital resource depletion)?
It is true that as the Universe is cooling and expanding, it's overall entropy(disorder) is increasing. But wherever energy is being pumped into the system, you will develop pockets of order. For example, when our sun dies, the earth will no longer have the energy to maintain its order, and escape its entropy. When our bodies are no longer able to use energy to maintain our normal metabolism, we also will succumb to entropy. So, as long as there is an available energy source to maintain order in a system, order CAN certainly come from disorder(figuratively speaking). If you can accept that entropy represents the number of possible choices and outcomes within a system, then you might be able to follow. Using lotto as an example. If one person makes a bet, his chances would be millions to one against having the winning outcome. But if millions of people bet on all combinations, the chances would be 100% certainty for one person to win. Right? No matter existed at the time of the BB. It took 180 million years after the BB before the first stars could bathe the Universe in their light, by exciting the hydrogen gas to absorb the background radio waves. You might also note that this discovery was evidenced in the outback deserts of Australia. If we consider the total number of the stars, planets, and galaxies in the Universe, and add 10 billion years of entropic possibilities, why can't you understand why it would be inevitable for our planet to form, and its chemical and biological evolution to begin? Remember, it took billions of years before a single celled organism could eventually evolve into a human. Unless you believe that complexity is not rooted in simplicity?
I'm quite certain that few people will jump out of a two story window, because science is simply "blind faith". I don't think you would put your finger into an exposed live power outlet because electricity is based on "blind faith", would you? I'm sure there are many things in science that you wouldn't consider as just "blind faith". In fact, it is science that makes your existence possible and will continue to prolong it. Other than a few virgin-happy religious fanatics flying planes into buildings, I don't see any cues waiting to fast-track their way to the gates of Heaven. Maybe you deep-down believe that science is reliable and works, and that faith-based beliefs alone don't. But hey, to each his or her own.
