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Featured The Messiah Rejected by All

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by wizanda, Jan 21, 2018.

  1. The Emperor of Mankind

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    If you're gonna perform a Skype summoning you could at least have the decency to be online when I sign on five minutes LATER!!
     
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    I find a problem in understanding with your post, especially the 36 points. You see the word christ (being used) as Jesus. You see it as the orthodox present the word, and the ensuing difficulty in getting the true image. This is what I see.

    Jesus became "the" Christ. The first. The word Christ means "accepting the chrism". This acceptance is what is the baptism of fire, being born of spirit (while flesh dies). Jesus became Christ just as we become christs, sons of God and not sons of man.

    Pauls words using christ is exactly the same as the Gospels, if you read them with spirit (chrism). The gnosis the orthodox rejects carries on this thought. The OT never had this knowledge. John 6, 8, 10.

    It all comes together depending on how you approach it. It's right to be to be troubled by what one reads. But the answer is a promise given, if one seeks it. If you ask a man, you'll get a mans answer.

    (2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."- Gospel of Thomas

    Jesus words will never fade away. But they may be hidden (by men) as Paul and Jesus himself has alluded to. And this include outside the box (of the man made bible).

    It's a simple choice, really. Where do you place your trust (to find what you seek)? Being led by man, or by Spirit?
     
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    Ha! Foreshadowing.
     
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    I've not read all Sutra yet... So haven't even come across anything mentioning such a hierarchy, and would reject such concepts from everything i've found about Buddha's comprehension so far.

    Can understand in Hindu texts Indra is the 'king' of the Avatars, and that Buddha would've respected the local customs; yet i do not see reality like that, hierarchies are a man-made concept, as are kings.

    Buddha rejected the 'self' orientated religions of old, and so to say he respected an idolistic approach to theology, is the exact opposite of everything i understand about him.

    If you have text to substantiate such ideas, please share and will read them; also going to read up on Indra more, and get better comprehension of these things.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    Christ means anointed one, and all prophets, kings, and then Christians were originally anointed with the holy anointing oil (Exodus 30:23-24); now most reject the anointing oil contains cannabis (Kaneh Bosem), and that they're meant to have this.

    Yeshua was a specific reference in Isaiah 52:14 which has an additional yod on the word blemish making it anointed, and Daniel 9:26 also about the Messiah.
    That seems an outside approach to the riddle presented in knowing the text....

    Yeshua Elohim is prophesied to come down here in Isaiah 52:10, 'we shall physically see the salvation of God' (Isaiah 52:13) 'appearing in the form of a son of man'.

    YHVH shall become Yeshua - H3444 + H1961 = Exodus 15:2-3, Psalms 118:14-21, Isaiah 12:2

    We shall see Yeshua = H3444 + H7200 = Exodus 14:13, Psalms 98:3, Isaiah 52:10
    We already are this according to the Biblical text, without anything to do with Yeshua coming down here... Psalms 82:6 says 'we're all Elohim and children of the Most High'.

    We can not become 'The Christ' as there is only one King specified as ambassador, and that same being is One across the religious texts.

    Though we can all have the holy anointing oil, with some becoming like seers of old, and also use it to heal when made properly.
    As an arch angel I've been guided to know many things, and at 5 years old knew the corruption in the religious texts as an energy pattern; yet it is useless having none logistic wishy washy beliefs, without evidence to back up the statements for other people to understand.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    You are an archangel?
     
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    Born as a son of man.... Yet in my NDE it confirmed what always known since birth...

    It wasn't the point tho, it was just based on some of the data i've had is mind blowing in comparison; yet it doesn't mean it can be relayed to people, without logistically showing where this exist in their presuppositions.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    If you're getting this belief from Zoroastrian scripture then 'citation needed', I'm afraid.


    No, he doesn't want to bring 'Oneness' (whatever that is); that's just you projecting your beliefs on to Zoroastrianism like you do with so many other faiths. Mazda's short term plan was to trap Angra Mainyu (Regressive Mind) in this Universe with the long term view to destroying it.


    With drastically different outcomes; the Bible views the fire as a punishment for sins unredeemed. Zoroastrianism views the fire as a cleansing device for purifying the soul of any lingering traces of Regressive Mind.


    This just makes it sound like Christians plagiarised the Zoroastrian prophecy for their own ends.


    None of which is pertinent since the Bible is not Zoroastrian scripture.


    No, sorry. You don't get to retrofit Jesus into this prophecy because it's convenient to you. It specifically says the Saoshyant will be born of Zarathustra's seed. Jesus was Jewish; not Bactrian or Median or Aryan or whatever Zarathustra was.
     
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    Ancient Prophecies -- Zoroastrian

    The prophecy from the Jamasp Nama "It is said that the sun will stand in the midst of the sky in the time of Oshedar Bami [Hushedar] for 10 days and in the time of Oshedar Mah [Hushedar Mah] for 20 days and in the time of Soshyosh [Saoshyant] for 30 days"

    The THREE Mighty Saviours to come: Zarathushtri religious belief
     
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