The Medical Benefits of Camel Urine

[Al-Fulani]

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[Al-Fulani]

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[Samana Johann]

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In that case, good householder, hold them dear and be grateful for it, as they helped you to have a good dwelling. As told, not all here are free from fear, free from defilement and may act foolish themselves.

Good if removing the old off-topics as well and start anew, with more shine.

Maybe good householder likes to introduce him to others, as normal people always fear what they do not know.

 

[stvdv]

consume camel urine as a remedy for various ailments

IMO ... better use your "own urine" ... body is very clever and your own urine contains quite a few goodies
I would not recommend it when one is on a junk food diet though ... and use it smart and wise
So I can understand "use camel urine" as camels usually don't eat junk food

 

[Vinayaka]

If there are scientific studies on any substance at all that will help with any disease, pain relief, etc., people should be open to it. The western medical system with it's chemical drugs and greedy pharmaceuticals have caused a lot of herbs and substances used by ancient peoples or pioneers to disappear from use. It's sad.

Example ... Head lice shampoo $25 ... might work, might not, may take several applications.
Coal Oil (Kerosene) 1 tbsp $0.10 ... will work, one application needed

 

[Cooky]

It has long been a practice of 'alternative medicine' in the Middle East to consume camel urine as a remedy for various ailments. The milk of camels has also been consumed for the same reason, but this practice has been faced with much less scrutiny in popular discourse surrounding Islam. The practice, at least among the Muslims specifically, has its basis in a narrative (ḥadīth) of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) mentioned in several sources wherein he prescribes this practice to his followers due to its perceived medical benefits (see al-Bukhārī, 76, no. 9; al-Tirmiḍī, 28, no. 2177; Ibn Māja, 31, no. 3632; al-Nasāʾī, 37, no. 59; Muslim, 28, no. 13). This is also recorded by Ibn Isḥāq in his Sīra (see the section dealing with the expedition of Kurz b. Jābir). In addition, the Qur'ān speaks of the miraculous nature of the camel and lists it as one of the signs of Allāh (ﷻ): “Then do they not look at the camels — how they are created?” (88:17). Ibn Kathir (raḥimahullāh) comments on this verse in his Tafsīr, saying, “Indeed it is an amazing creation [...] It is eaten, benefit is derived from its hair, and its milk is drunk.” The renowned Muslim polymath Ibn Sīnā (Avicenna) also prescribed camel urine for the treatment of dandruff and diseases of the nose and spleen (al-Qānūn, Book II, Discourse 2, 6:51).

We are thus left with the question of whether there is any real basis for the belief that camel urine has any use as a medical treatment. If we go simply by an Islamic standard, then the answer is in the affirmative, since the report is authentic and recorded in multiple classical sources. On the basis of chain (isnād) criticism alone, it is undoubtable that this idea has been authentically attributed to the Prophet, whose word we cannot doubt as Muslims, but is there there any scientific evidence for this statement? Well, let's look at what the medical literature says:

• In a study done on rats, camel urine has been demonstrated to have gastroprotective and ulcer-healing properties. In this study, it was also deemed as safe and non-toxic (Hu, et. al. 2017).
• An analysis of camel urine has shown it to "possess antiplatelet activity and anti-cancer activity" not demonstrated in other types of urine (Ahamad, et. al. 2017).
• In another study, it has demonstrated “a potential to be further developed as an anticancer agent for cancer treatment,” particularly for the treatment of breast cancer (Romli, et. al. 2017).
• One study has shown that “many of the camel urinary proteins could be involved in various stress and immune responses, and some may have antimicrobial activities” (Alhaider, et. al. 2012).
• Another study concluded that camel urine “has specific and efficient anti-cancer and potent immune-modulator properties” (Al-Yousef, et. al. 2012).
• Research has also shown camel urine to possess antiplatelet activity (Alhaidar, et. al. 2011). One of the uses of aspirin is as an antiplatelet drug.
• Testing has demonstrated that “all types of camel, but not bovine, urines differentially inhibited the induction of Cyp1a1 gene expression by TCDD, the most potent Cyp1a1 inducer and known carcinogenic chemical” (Alhaider, et. al. 2011), confirming the traditional belief in the ability of camel urine to treat cancer.
• One study showed that “Camel urine treatment was found to cause a significant cytotoxic effect in the bone marrow cells of mice. This cytotoxicity at higher doses was comparable with that of standard drug cyclophosphamide (CP). However, unlike CP, the camel urine treatment failed to induce any clastogenicity” (al-Harbi, et. al. 1996). This shows the potential of camel urine as a treatment for cancer. CP is a drug used for treating cancer (by killing cancer cells) due to its cytotoxic properties. However, unlike CP, camel urine does not induce the disruption or breakage of chromosomes (clastogenicity).
• The results of another study indicated that “camel urine may contain bioactive agents capable of preventing CCL4-induced hepatic and pancreatic islet lesions” (Al Neyadi, et. al 2012).

So there you have it. Now people can stop wasting their breath claiming that this ḥadīth is "evidence" that Islam is untrue.

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All the "scientific" studies you listed were done by Muslim Arabs. Until non-Muslims show similar results, nobody should believe this.

 

[Cooky]

If there are scientific studies on any substance at all that will help with any disease, pain relief, etc., people should be open to it. The western medical system with it's chemical drugs and greedy pharmaceuticals have caused a lot of herbs and substances used by ancient peoples or pioneers to disappear from use. It's sad.

Example ... Head lice shampoo $25 ... might work, might not, may take several applications.
Coal Oil (Kerosene) 1 tbsp $0.10 ... will work, one application needed

the "scientific" studies will need to be re-created by non-biased, actual scientists before anyone should seriously consider drinking camel urine.

 

[Cooky]

In that case, good householder, hold them dear and be grateful for it, as they helped you to have a good dwelling. As told, not all here are free from fear, free from defilement and may act foolish themselves.

Good if removing the old off-topics as well and start anew, with more shine.

Maybe good householder likes to introduce him to others, as normal people always fear what they do not know.

This is a debate forum though... Here, we chew ideas up and spit them out if they don't seem right - to put them to the test. Fear may or may not be a factor in this sifting process.

...Introductions, and saying hello are for the other sub-forums here.

 

[Vinayaka]

the "scientific" studies will need to be re-created by non-biased, actual scientists before anyone should seriously consider drinking camel urine.

Oh I agree, but sometimes the 'non-biased' scientists can't get past their bias far enough to even do the testing. If there ever was some successful studies, they'd hide the origin under some name, just like few people know the origins of glucosamine.

Who knows, perhaps camel urine in pill form is already out there.

 

[Milton Platt]

It has long been a practice of 'alternative medicine' in the Middle East to consume camel urine as a remedy for various ailments. The milk of camels has also been consumed for the same reason, but this practice has been faced with much less scrutiny in popular discourse surrounding Islam. The practice, at least among the Muslims specifically, has its basis in a narrative (ḥadīth) of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) mentioned in several sources wherein he prescribes this practice to his followers due to its perceived medical benefits (see al-Bukhārī, 76, no. 9; al-Tirmiḍī, 28, no. 2177; Ibn Māja, 31, no. 3632; al-Nasāʾī, 37, no. 59; Muslim, 28, no. 13). This is also recorded by Ibn Isḥāq in his Sīra (see the section dealing with the expedition of Kurz b. Jābir). In addition, the Qur'ān speaks of the miraculous nature of the camel and lists it as one of the signs of Allāh (ﷻ): “Then do they not look at the camels — how they are created?” (88:17). Ibn Kathir (raḥimahullāh) comments on this verse in his Tafsīr, saying, “Indeed it is an amazing creation [...] It is eaten, benefit is derived from its hair, and its milk is drunk.” The renowned Muslim polymath Ibn Sīnā (Avicenna) also prescribed camel urine for the treatment of dandruff and diseases of the nose and spleen (al-Qānūn, Book II, Discourse 2, 6:51).

We are thus left with the question of whether there is any real basis for the belief that camel urine has any use as a medical treatment. If we go simply by an Islamic standard, then the answer is in the affirmative, since the report is authentic and recorded in multiple classical sources. On the basis of chain (isnād) criticism alone, it is undoubtable that this idea has been authentically attributed to the Prophet, whose word we cannot doubt as Muslims, but is there there any scientific evidence for this statement? Well, let's look at what the medical literature says:

• In a study done on rats, camel urine has been demonstrated to have gastroprotective and ulcer-healing properties. In this study, it was also deemed as safe and non-toxic (Hu, et. al. 2017).
• An analysis of camel urine has shown it to "possess antiplatelet activity and anti-cancer activity" not demonstrated in other types of urine (Ahamad, et. al. 2017).
• In another study, it has demonstrated “a potential to be further developed as an anticancer agent for cancer treatment,” particularly for the treatment of breast cancer (Romli, et. al. 2017).
• One study has shown that “many of the camel urinary proteins could be involved in various stress and immune responses, and some may have antimicrobial activities” (Alhaider, et. al. 2012).
• Another study concluded that camel urine “has specific and efficient anti-cancer and potent immune-modulator properties” (Al-Yousef, et. al. 2012).
• Research has also shown camel urine to possess antiplatelet activity (Alhaidar, et. al. 2011). One of the uses of aspirin is as an antiplatelet drug.
• Testing has demonstrated that “all types of camel, but not bovine, urines differentially inhibited the induction of Cyp1a1 gene expression by TCDD, the most potent Cyp1a1 inducer and known carcinogenic chemical” (Alhaider, et. al. 2011), confirming the traditional belief in the ability of camel urine to treat cancer.
• One study showed that “Camel urine treatment was found to cause a significant cytotoxic effect in the bone marrow cells of mice. This cytotoxicity at higher doses was comparable with that of standard drug cyclophosphamide (CP). However, unlike CP, the camel urine treatment failed to induce any clastogenicity” (al-Harbi, et. al. 1996). This shows the potential of camel urine as a treatment for cancer. CP is a drug used for treating cancer (by killing cancer cells) due to its cytotoxic properties. However, unlike CP, camel urine does not induce the disruption or breakage of chromosomes (clastogenicity).
• The results of another study indicated that “camel urine may contain bioactive agents capable of preventing CCL4-induced hepatic and pancreatic islet lesions” (Al Neyadi, et. al 2012).

So there you have it. Now people can stop wasting their breath claiming that this ḥadīth is "evidence" that Islam is untrue.

​

I have never heard anyone use an argument about camel urine to discount the existence of a deity, but I guess I haven't heard everything yet. But I also don't see how camel urine having any affect, good or bad, is evidence for a diety. So for me, the subject is interesting, but irrelevant.

 

[Revoltingest]

To ensure freshness and sterility, it's drank strait from the tap.

From a convenient straw?

 

[Twilight Hue]

It has long been a practice of 'alternative medicine' in the Middle East to consume camel urine as a remedy for various ailments. The milk of camels has also been consumed for the same reason, but this practice has been faced with much less scrutiny in popular discourse surrounding Islam. The practice, at least among the Muslims specifically, has its basis in a narrative (ḥadīth) of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) mentioned in several sources wherein he prescribes this practice to his followers due to its perceived medical benefits (see al-Bukhārī, 76, no. 9; al-Tirmiḍī, 28, no. 2177; Ibn Māja, 31, no. 3632; al-Nasāʾī, 37, no. 59; Muslim, 28, no. 13). This is also recorded by Ibn Isḥāq in his Sīra (see the section dealing with the expedition of Kurz b. Jābir). In addition, the Qur'ān speaks of the miraculous nature of the camel and lists it as one of the signs of Allāh (ﷻ): “Then do they not look at the camels — how they are created?” (88:17). Ibn Kathir (raḥimahullāh) comments on this verse in his Tafsīr, saying, “Indeed it is an amazing creation [...] It is eaten, benefit is derived from its hair, and its milk is drunk.” The renowned Muslim polymath Ibn Sīnā (Avicenna) also prescribed camel urine for the treatment of dandruff and diseases of the nose and spleen (al-Qānūn, Book II, Discourse 2, 6:51).

We are thus left with the question of whether there is any real basis for the belief that camel urine has any use as a medical treatment. If we go simply by an Islamic standard, then the answer is in the affirmative, since the report is authentic and recorded in multiple classical sources. On the basis of chain (isnād) criticism alone, it is undoubtable that this idea has been authentically attributed to the Prophet, whose word we cannot doubt as Muslims, but is there there any scientific evidence for this statement? Well, let's look at what the medical literature says:

• In a study done on rats, camel urine has been demonstrated to have gastroprotective and ulcer-healing properties. In this study, it was also deemed as safe and non-toxic (Hu, et. al. 2017).
• An analysis of camel urine has shown it to "possess antiplatelet activity and anti-cancer activity" not demonstrated in other types of urine (Ahamad, et. al. 2017).
• In another study, it has demonstrated “a potential to be further developed as an anticancer agent for cancer treatment,” particularly for the treatment of breast cancer (Romli, et. al. 2017).
• One study has shown that “many of the camel urinary proteins could be involved in various stress and immune responses, and some may have antimicrobial activities” (Alhaider, et. al. 2012).
• Another study concluded that camel urine “has specific and efficient anti-cancer and potent immune-modulator properties” (Al-Yousef, et. al. 2012).
• Research has also shown camel urine to possess antiplatelet activity (Alhaidar, et. al. 2011). One of the uses of aspirin is as an antiplatelet drug.
• Testing has demonstrated that “all types of camel, but not bovine, urines differentially inhibited the induction of Cyp1a1 gene expression by TCDD, the most potent Cyp1a1 inducer and known carcinogenic chemical” (Alhaider, et. al. 2011), confirming the traditional belief in the ability of camel urine to treat cancer.
• One study showed that “Camel urine treatment was found to cause a significant cytotoxic effect in the bone marrow cells of mice. This cytotoxicity at higher doses was comparable with that of standard drug cyclophosphamide (CP). However, unlike CP, the camel urine treatment failed to induce any clastogenicity” (al-Harbi, et. al. 1996). This shows the potential of camel urine as a treatment for cancer. CP is a drug used for treating cancer (by killing cancer cells) due to its cytotoxic properties. However, unlike CP, camel urine does not induce the disruption or breakage of chromosomes (clastogenicity).
• The results of another study indicated that “camel urine may contain bioactive agents capable of preventing CCL4-induced hepatic and pancreatic islet lesions” (Al Neyadi, et. al 2012).

So there you have it. Now people can stop wasting their breath claiming that this ḥadīth is "evidence" that Islam is untrue.

​

Urine is a waste product. The only living thing that would benefit I would think would be plants and bacteria.

 

[We Never Know]

Urine is a waste product. The only living thing that would benefit I would think would be plants and bacteria.

While it seems odd, there are studies on it.

Camel urine components display anti-cancer properties in vitro.

Abstract
ETHNOPHARMACOLOGICAL RELEVANCE: While camel urine (CU) is widely used in the Arabian Peninsula to treat various diseases, including cancer, its exact mechanism of action is still not defined. The objective of the present study is to investigate whether camel urine has anti-cancer effect on human cells in vitro.

MATERIALS AND METHODS: The annexinV/PI assay was used to assess apoptosis, and immunoblotting analysis determined the effect of CU on different apoptotic and oncogenic proteins. Furthermore, flow cytometry and Elispot were utilized to investigate cytotoxicity and the effect on the cell cycle as well as the production of cytokines, respectively.

RESULTS: Camel urine showed cytotoxicity against various, but not all, human cancer cell lines, with only marginal effect on non-tumorigenic epithelial and normal fibroblast cells epithelial and fibroblast cells. Interestingly, 216 mg/ml of lyophilized CU inhibited cell proliferation and triggered more than 80% of apoptosis in different cancer cells, including breast carcinomas and medulloblastomas. Apoptosis was induced in these cells through the intrinsic pathway via Bcl-2 decrease. Furthermore, CU down-regulated the cancer-promoting proteins survivin, β-catenin and cyclin D1 and increased the level of the cyclin-dependent kinase inhibitor p21. In addition, we have shown that CU has no cytotoxic effect against peripheral blood mononuclear cells and has strong immuno-inducer activity through inducing IFN-γ and inhibiting the Th2 cytokines IL-4, IL-6 and IL-10.

CONCLUSIONS: CU has specific and efficient anti-cancer and potent immune-modulator properties in vitro.

Camel urine components display anti-cancer properties in vitro. - PubMed - NCBI

 

[Twilight Hue]

While it seems odd, there are studies on it.

Camel urine components display anti-cancer properties in vitro.

Abstract
ETHNOPHARMACOLOGICAL RELEVANCE: While camel urine (CU) is widely used in the Arabian Peninsula to treat various diseases, including cancer, its exact mechanism of action is still not defined. The objective of the present study is to investigate whether camel urine has anti-cancer effect on human cells in vitro.

MATERIALS AND METHODS: The annexinV/PI assay was used to assess apoptosis, and immunoblotting analysis determined the effect of CU on different apoptotic and oncogenic proteins. Furthermore, flow cytometry and Elispot were utilized to investigate cytotoxicity and the effect on the cell cycle as well as the production of cytokines, respectively.

RESULTS: Camel urine showed cytotoxicity against various, but not all, human cancer cell lines, with only marginal effect on non-tumorigenic epithelial and normal fibroblast cells epithelial and fibroblast cells. Interestingly, 216 mg/ml of lyophilized CU inhibited cell proliferation and triggered more than 80% of apoptosis in different cancer cells, including breast carcinomas and medulloblastomas. Apoptosis was induced in these cells through the intrinsic pathway via Bcl-2 decrease. Furthermore, CU down-regulated the cancer-promoting proteins survivin, β-catenin and cyclin D1 and increased the level of the cyclin-dependent kinase inhibitor p21. In addition, we have shown that CU has no cytotoxic effect against peripheral blood mononuclear cells and has strong immuno-inducer activity through inducing IFN-γ and inhibiting the Th2 cytokines IL-4, IL-6 and IL-10.

CONCLUSIONS: CU has specific and efficient anti-cancer and potent immune-modulator properties in vitro.

Camel urine components display anti-cancer properties in vitro. - PubMed - NCBI

Well yeah biochemistry is a little different.

I somehow have a feeling you can't cure cancer by boiling a cup of camels urine and then going, "Cheers mate, bottoms Up"!

 

[We Never Know]

Well yeah biochemistry is a little different.

I somehow have a feeling you can't cure cancer by boiling a cup of camels urine and then going, "Cheers mate, bottoms Up"!

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't do it

 

[We Never Know]

What active ingredients have been isolated? What is their mechanism of action? Why are they exclusively confined to camels?

This sheds a little light on it.

While it seems odd, there are studies on it.

Camel urine components display anti-cancer properties in vitro.

Abstract
ETHNOPHARMACOLOGICAL RELEVANCE: While camel urine (CU) is widely used in the Arabian Peninsula to treat various diseases, including cancer, its exact mechanism of action is still not defined. The objective of the present study is to investigate whether camel urine has anti-cancer effect on human cells in vitro.

MATERIALS AND METHODS: The annexinV/PI assay was used to assess apoptosis, and immunoblotting analysis determined the effect of CU on different apoptotic and oncogenic proteins. Furthermore, flow cytometry and Elispot were utilized to investigate cytotoxicity and the effect on the cell cycle as well as the production of cytokines, respectively.

RESULTS: Camel urine showed cytotoxicity against various, but not all, human cancer cell lines, with only marginal effect on non-tumorigenic epithelial and normal fibroblast cells epithelial and fibroblast cells. Interestingly, 216 mg/ml of lyophilized CU inhibited cell proliferation and triggered more than 80% of apoptosis in different cancer cells, including breast carcinomas and medulloblastomas. Apoptosis was induced in these cells through the intrinsic pathway via Bcl-2 decrease. Furthermore, CU down-regulated the cancer-promoting proteins survivin, β-catenin and cyclin D1 and increased the level of the cyclin-dependent kinase inhibitor p21. In addition, we have shown that CU has no cytotoxic effect against peripheral blood mononuclear cells and has strong immuno-inducer activity through inducing IFN-γ and inhibiting the Th2 cytokines IL-4, IL-6 and IL-10.

CONCLUSIONS: CU has specific and efficient anti-cancer and potent immune-modulator properties in vitro.

Camel urine components display anti-cancer properties in vitro. - PubMed - NCBI