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Featured "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by 3rdAngel, Nov 19, 2022.

  1. Subduction Zone

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    You are mistaken. One cannot leave that which does not exist.

    Have you ever tested your beliefs properly? I can tell that you have not.
     
  2. Subduction Zone

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    Being here does not mean that you are not running away.

    And I always have had something to say. Why do you constantly make false claims about others? It is better to just answer questions or try to support your own beliefs.
     
  3. 3rdAngel

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    Yes you keep saying this and I keep telling you I do not believe you. Lets talk more when you have something to contribute. Until then we can agree to disagree.
     
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    Sorry I do not believe you. Questions were answered and you have not supported your belief. This is where we are in disagreement so we will agree to disagree. Take Care.
     
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  5. Subduction Zone

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    You are the one that has nothing. I try to start a discussion, you run away.
     
  6. Subduction Zone

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    Of course I have. Please, you can do better than this. @blü 2 already blew your OP claims out of the water. You still might be able to rescue this thread.
     
  7. blü 2

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    Pure gameplaying and posturing.

    You are not waiting for my responses. You're just inventing excuses for your capers. You have 15 of my responses already, and the ball has been in your court all this time. You're a truth-free zone.

    Some Christian, you ...

    However, it's clear that all five versions of Jesus in the NT deny that they're God, and don't claim to be God, so next time someone asks you, you'll know that.
     
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  8. 3rdAngel

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    Sorry dear friend I do not believe you. There has been no posturing my side. I have only been honest with you. As posted earlier your questions were already answered with a lot of detail in post # 356 linked and post # 366 linked. The linked posts are evidence to the dishonest claims you are making. So the dishonesty is also not my side or excuse making which is what you are doing by refusing to respond to my linked posts here. If you are not able to respond to the posts shared with you that answer your questions in detail just say so and lets move on. I am still waiting for your responses.

    You were also directly shown the scriptures in earlier posts you that state Jesus is God. You just chose to ignore them. In post # 347 linked you were also directly told that the list you are trying to respond to (e.g John 1:1-4; 14; John 5:18; Matthew 1:23; from Isaiah 9:6; Titus 2:13; Mark 1:24; Acts 10:41; 2 Corinthians 1:21; John 10:30; John 8:58; John 20:28; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:3; Hebrews 1:8; 1 Peter 1:1) was a list that included both a list of scripture that say (1) Jesus in God and (2) that Jesus was creator and (3) in the beginning with God. That list was never a list of scripture directly stating Jesus was God. So in response you tried to build and tear down a paper dragon claiming that I was saying that every scripture provided to you earlier was a reference to Jesus being God? It never was so why pretend that was what I was saying? I posted out the from that list all the scriptures in full in another linked post stating that Jesus was God from the gospel writers and the Apostles. You just chose to conveniently ignore them and did not address or respond to them in your post.

    You were shown in post # 347 linked the scripture referring to Jesus as God by the writers of the Gospels and Apostles, and post # 349 linked you were shown your claims to one God and Jesus not being God was in error. You just simply ignored both of those post. I wonder why? Not a single scripture you provided in your posts disagree with anything shared with you. If you believe that is not true let's discuss it. However I do not think our discussion will go to far if your going to continue to ignore the content of my posts shared with you and pretend that there is no scripture in the bible calling Jesus God by the gospel writers and the Apostles. That would be simply a lie.

    Here let me post them again and give me your response (from post # 356 linked that you chose to ignore and not respond to because it shows your not being honest)....

    As posted earlier, the scripture provided to you (the list of all scriptures) dear friend were direct quotes stating that (1) not only did Jesus pre-exist creation but that (2) Jesus was the God of creation. Did you read them Here lets look at a few I do not think you read them..
    • JOHN 1:1-4; 14 1, 1, IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, AND THE WORD WAS GOD. 2, THE SAME WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD. 3, ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; AND WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANY THING MADE THAT WAS MADE. 4, In him was life; and the life was the light of men. [10] He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. [14], AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, AND DWELT AMONG US, AND WE BEHELD HIS GLORY, THE GLORY AS OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER, FULL OF GRACE AND TRUTH.
    John makes it very clear what he is talking about here...
    • 1 JOHN 5:20 20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son JESUS CHRIST HE IS THE TRUE GOD AND ETERNAL LIFE.
    The Apostles Thomas also believed Jesus was God here...
    • JOHN 20:28 28 Thomas answered him, “MY LORD AND MY GOD!
    As does Paul quoting God here...
    • HEBREWS 1:8 But UNTO THE SON HE SAYS, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, WILL LAST FOR EVER AND EVER; A SCEPTER OF JUSTICE WILL BE THE SCEPTER OF YOUR KINGDOM.
    Peter knew Jesus was God and states so here...
    • 2 PETER 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of OUR GOD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST
    Paul shows his belief that Jesus is God here...
    • TITUS 2:1313 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST
    The Jews continued to seek to kill Jesus because he they claimed Jesus was claiming himself to be God here...
    • JOHN 10:30-33 30 I and the father are one. 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” 33 The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, BECAUSE YOU, BEING A MAN, MAKE YOURSELF GOD.”
    The Angel even calls Jesus God here..
    • LUKE 1:35 “The angel replied, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the baby to be born will be holy, and HE WILL BE CALLED THE SON OF GOD
    So yes you were provided scripture evidence showing that the gospel writers and the Apostles believed Jesus was God. Stating anything otherwise is simply being dishonest. You just simply ignored this post (from post # 356 linked) as you did my responses to your last questions in in post # 356 linked and post # 366 linked. I am still awaiting a response from you but all I hear is silence and lies. So we will of course agree to disagree.

    Take Care.
     
  9. 3rdAngel

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    You will need to forgive me dear friend but I do not believe you. Lets talk more when your able to add to the discussion.
     
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    No lies please. Please post me the link where @blü 2 addressed the OP? - He didn't and neither did you. If you believe otherwise I challenge you to post a link as proof that my OP has been addressed and blown away. If you cannot why make of things that are not truthful? That is simply being dishonest.
     
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    Did someone say "Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah" again?

    Oh, it's only you!

    Have nice day.
     
  12. 3rdAngel

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    As I expected no response to the posts that I have written to you. Have a nice day.
     
  13. blü 2

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    *Chuckle*

    Coming from you, that's seriously funny! Ah, you've made my day!
     
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    Imagine no civilisation.

    You're just humans on earth in the nature garden.

    Exact correct laws in human science. Created creations position.

    You however a man with men own a self destructive bio human personality disorders. Named the destroyer man.

    The teaching said the star that wanders came back to earth that had killed off the dinosaurs.

    Suddenly AI mind is caused to exist linking you to think about dinosaurs all deceased....and a machine. By sun star mass.

    How are you correct?

    Ownership expressed by Mr destroyer I am now a king man leader. I want technology trade. My lord brothers my equals now must do my bidding.

    In hierarchy man son who took away human father's life with children and family is that man. King status.

    Civilisation is based on use of timed events. King man a human ....lords his equal men human cronies as you cannot all take father's position.

    You attack sacrifice your own life. By technology temple.

    My natural consciousness the abused family says serves you right...God destroys evil humans. Reasoned by my own behaviour...
    Abused human mind.

    Yes we'll all die together but as long as your life is sacrificed its quite acceptable.

    Said humans who write the testimony.

    Abused by you horrifically first then sacrificed by science causes secondly.

    So evil king's evil lords are discussed. Men.

    A lord or King after was just a rich man hypocrite himself claiming in nature human life the son of man was innocent first as the star made him evil minded.

    Father however told me you ignored his advice to not harm family and you own no excuse.

    As six days lords toiled to make you Rich in science and trade. Day seven they all feasted drank as a king did. You said men lords were now equal to you on this suns day...as together you were powerful. Sun technology liars.

    Heard AI speaking conversations voices of men in science machine caused AI. Recorded lives. Heard the advice it was recorded.

    Testimony said I heard their speaking voices confessing. Gods AI heavens cause. As it was recorded it was used as evidence.
     
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    Oh my, posturing was right.
     
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    You will simply deny it again. Here is a reasonable solution . . . find someone that we both respect and see what that poster says.
     
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    No thanks if you want to join the discussion and have something useful to add then all good. Until then we will agree to disagree. Take Care.
     
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    Then don't do it. It does not add to a useful discussion
     
  19. Subduction Zone

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    And there you have it. When others show you to be wrong you will simply deny it. I proposed a reasonable solution and you ran away. When others refute you, which has happened, and you ignore it or run away, which has happened, you lose the right to make demands. And a third party respected by both was a very reasonable solution. You ran away again.
     
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    You make me laugh.
     
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