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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Messianic Israelite, Aug 11, 2022.

  1. Messianic Israelite

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    Another post I decided on writing on the spur of the moment today. I couldn’t help but shake my head at the amount of disbelief I have found on what should be a religious forum regarding the Bible. Constantly people are questioning the Biblical message and coming up with their own ideas regarding eternal life and what they have to do to be saved. One of the main ways to instil belief in one mind regarding the veracity of the Bible is to read it. “Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about the Messiah.” (Romans 10:17)

    Perhaps one should devote less time to endless philosophical discussions, and simply read the Bible. In the book of Acts, Paul was confronted with the same problem: “20 For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. 21 (Now all the Athenians and the strangers sojourning there a]">[a]spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell or to hear some new thing.) 22 And Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus, and said, Ye men of Athens, in all things I perceive that ye are b]">[b]very religious.” The people of Athens enjoyed such discussions, but did this make a change in their life? Hardly. However, the title of this thread, the Kingdom of Yahweh, makes all the difference. Do we want to be there? Do we believe in a Kingdom? A world without suffering, pain and evil? A heavenly world ruled by beings of light? A world where Yahweh’s Law will be kept. I believe in the Kingdom and I believe in the Word which describes it.

    Right now, they are a lot of threads on the subject of why is there suffering in the world. The people that write these threads seem to forget of the world to come, when every tear will be wiped away. Revelation 21:4 says: “and he shall wipe away every tear from their eyes; and death shall be no more; neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more: the first things are passed away.” But in order to make it in to that kingdom, we have to be obedient to Yahweh’s commandments now, in a world where suffering is evident. We have to live a life of perfection, in a world which isn't perfect. We have to prove to Yahweh we don’t hate him, which we do when we sin, but that we love Him (1 John 5:3). Just because people suffer in this life, doesn’t mean they’ll be denied entrance in to the Kingdom. The mention of Lazarus and the Rich Man by Yahshua my Savior proves this (Luke 16:19-31). Lazarus suffered immensely, but he was obedient to Yahweh and in eternity, he will have a good understanding of suffering and so be able to help others.

    Matthew 6:33 says: “But seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.”

    If more people were seeking the Kingdom of Yahweh, they would be more inclined to follow the Word of Yahweh and keep His commandments, no matter what obstacles and problems got in their way. I am seeking Yahweh’s Kingdom. Sometimes I feel that I let life’s distractions get in the way, but ultimately, I remind myself of the kingdom just about every day in what I read, and in my prayers. Exodus 19:6 says: “you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”
     
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  2. Jayhawker Soule

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    Well, if it says so in gMat - authored by some anonymous apologist roughly half a century after the purported crucifixion - it must be true.
     
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    This, is where you're off base and out of touch. This forum allows for and invites all religions. It even allows for those with none. This ain't a one pony town.
     
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    Yeah, that works, provided you don't have a mind.

    Anyone who has been taught to think critically will find that reading the bible presents ambiguities, inconsistencies and contradictions. Furthermore, anyone who is not a hermit will realise that a lot of what it says doesn't bear any obvious relation to how people live today or else suggests things that seem to make no sense.

    So just reading it won't do, will it?
     
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  5. Messianic Israelite

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    Hi Jayhawker. Good afternoon. They are a range of dates which are given for the writing of the Book of Matthew. Various estimates have placed the date of Matthew's composition anywhere from AD 50 - to AD 100. However, it is my belief as some evidence suggests that the book was originally written in Hebrew or Aramaic and then later translated.

    In terms of Matthew being an anonymous apologist, since the times of the early 'church fathers', the apostle Matthew has always been accredited with the authorship of the first gospel (canonically). Even the title "According to Matthew" (KATA MAQQAION) is found in the earliest manuscripts, and was the most highly regarded and quoted of the gospels by the 'church fathers'.

    The New Testament tells of an individual, known as the Messiah, who was perfect in every conceivable way in His commandment keeping and who had the power to forgive sins, heal and preach powerfully. Judaism was looking for a Messiah, but to the most part, the Messiah was rejected by the Jews. That doesn't take away the fact that it was Yahweh's will to send us a suffering Messiah before a ruling Messiah, just as Isaiah 53 says.
     
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    Hi Viker. Good afternoon. This forum does allow for all belief, you are right. However, I should clarify. In the topics regarding the Bible, I see so much unbelief, which I suppose should be expected with so many different views, but when you know the Bible is truth it's hard to accept this sorry state of affairs. In the country that I live, it is called a "Chr-stian country" but so few people actually believe in the Bible it seems. Everyone has their own ideas about an after life and what they need to do, if anything, to get there. But that's all they are, "ideas". They're like the partridge that hatches eggs it did not lay (Jeremiah 17:11). In the end, these ideas will not profit anyone.
     
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    Hi exchemist. Good afternoon. I've been reading the Bible for years and I haven't found the inconsistencies and contradictions you are talking about. The Bible is relevant to us. Every scripture Yahweh breathed is profitable to us in some way we read in 2 Timothy 3:16. They're Yahweh's thoughts. Yahweh's will. By eating of the book (Revelation 10:9) we can become more like Yahweh. It's either that or believing in lies. And that I would think should be avoided at all costs.
     
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    One of the reasons I respect this forum and why I like being here is the fact that it welcomes and permits all religions and it welcomes those with no religion. I can express my opinions regarding the Christian God or Christianity without worrying about a staff reprimand or a forum ban. I appreciate the flexibility I have on these forums to discuss topics that interest me and that, when discussed in the Christian-dominated forums I previously frequented, consistently resulted in constant conflict for me. I also like that I can discuss my paranormal encounters and connection with the spirit realm. RF is the first forum where I've felt comfortable discussing these topics.
     
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    Not all opinions are created equal.
     
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    I like it but it's technically not true within Judaism.

    IMO, James was making the point that we all will break the Law at one time or another because it doesn't make sense at the literalistic level.
     
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    Scriptures are USEFUL but the scriptures are NOT only used by the Church! "Scriptures Alone" is a man made Tradition!
     
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    It was a long journey for me, going from believing that the Bible is inerrant and infallible to believing that it was copied from pagan religions that predated it and Christianity. I won't derail the thread by detailing what I learned, but I've talked about it in other threads.
     
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    Neither the UK or US is a "Christian Country" outside of the minds of Christians (interfaith is the better term)... But in the wise words of the Lords, Slipknot:

    Make a move and you pay for it
    Pick a lord and you pray to it
    You're so demanding when you want the truth
    But your stories don't read for me
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    You gotta lie if you wanna believe
    But your bibles don't work on me
     
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    Sgt. Pepper Hello I hope all is well...
    Jesus never wrote a word.. Jesus established a CHURCH before he left us!

    The Church uses the Bible to teach, rebuke, train and correct.. The scr4iptures are USEFUL the Church is the AUTHORITY not the bible!
     
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    Hi metis. Good morning. Much of those 613 commandments relate to the sacrificial law, which Yahshua our Savior fulfilled through his perfect life, shedding his perfect blood for our sins. He was the perfect sacrifice, "In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness" (Hebrews 9:22).

    Hebrews 10:4 says: "For it is impossible that the blood of bulls and goats should take away our sins. 5 Therefore when he comes into the world, he says, Sacrifice and offerings you would not want, But a body did you prepare for me; 6 In whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin you had no pleasure". However, the rest of the commandments which are applicable we keep. We still keep spiritual sacrifices through the praises of our lips (Hebrews 13:15).
     
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    Hi Sgt Pepper. Good morning. Indeed, this means that we have to keep all of the Laws, not forsake them, or part of them, as Chr-stianity does. All the laws come as a unit. In order for us to please Yahweh, we have to keep all of them. Yahshua our Savior kept all of the commandments, and we are to follow in his example. Through the power of the Holy Spirit, which purpose is to bring us in to full subjection to the Law, we can achieve a level of spirituality, holiness and perfection pleasing to the Heavenly Father.
     
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    Hi Dogknow20. Good morning. The Catholic Church has been guilty of some heinous sins against other religions: torture, false accusations, persecutions...and their priests have been guilty of molesting their adherents, engaging in pornography etc. If they had stuck to the Bible they wouldn't have had these problems. The scripture is the Word of Yahweh. Those Ch-rches that don't use it are often tickling people's ears, giving them cheese and crackers religion and what the people want to hear instead of strongly preaching the Word. Is the Ch-rch greater than the Word of Yahweh? No it isn't. The Word of Yahweh is what should be our foundation. As a matter of fact, Yahshua was the Word made flesh. His life was an perfect embodiment of the Word we read in the Bible. Too many people think the Word is no longer relevant, however, it is more relevant in this time of history than at any other time, us being in the end times.

    What did Yahshua say in John 5:39? "Ye search the scriptures, because ye think that in them ye have eternal life; and these are they which bear witness of me"
     
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    I have found the opposite to be true, the more I read the less believable it became.
     
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