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Featured The JW's claim Jesus was not son of Adam.

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by LightofTruth, Sep 1, 2019.

  1. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    The Bible says God created Adam about 6000 years ago. From the ground. He also made Eve from Adam's rib. I have no reason not to believe that.
     
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  2. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    God, as Jesus knew it, was the Father that he prayed to.
     
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  3. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe time lines vary but it isn't 30,000 years ago. The DNA doesn't lie.

    I believe there is a difference between simply being created by word as the first of men were and being created from the earth as Adam was. There are two different creation stories. There is no validity in combining them into one.
     
  4. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe He knew Himself as God as well.
     
  5. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    ? I don't understand what you are saying here.
     
  6. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    The Bible makes clear he knew himself as the Son of God who came from heaven. John 17:3 helps to explain this: "Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent." 1. God sent Jesus. 2. Jesus prayed to the God in heaven. 3. People must know God--the "only true" God--and Jesus, His Son.
     
  7. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    The "Word" is associated with Jesus. Jesus is the Word of God.
     
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    If Jesus was not Son of Adam then he could not be Son of Man as well, as he had no seed of a man and he had only seed of a woman and with the same reason he was not Son of God also ,as he had no seed of G-d also. Right friends, please?

    Regards
     
  9. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    Ok, here's how I look at it. Mary had genes from Adam. Eve came directly from Adam (his rib). She didn't have a fleshly mother and father producing her. Yet God was able to make her out of Adam's rib. Everyone after Adam and Eve has genes developed from man and woman. They were unique. In Jesus' case, he was given life from God, not the usual way from a man and woman. Jehovah caused life given to Jesus to be in Mary's womb. Now the question is: do you think the life in Mary's womb came from heaven?
     
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    Son of Adam is a mere statement that means "Human".
     
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    Son of Adam and Son of Man are the same.
     
  12. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    Then would you say son of God and son of Man are the same? Seems likely you could.
     
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    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    There's one little problem with that within the context of the argument. That is that Adam was made BY God. Given life BY God. Now unless you believe otherwise, please do say so. Thanks. that would help to understand what you're saying within the context.
     
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    No. I could not.
     
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    YT, Son of Adam is a direct reference to a mere human. This is just language. This is prevalent in Hebrew as well as Arabic. It just means member of humankind.
     
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  16. Muffled

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    I believe it says the Word is God.
     
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    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe English is confusing. Man can mean one person or the whole human race. Son of man just means He is human.

    It is possible that God created a seed for the male portion of the conception but it wouldn't come from Go because God doesn't do it that way as I believe the Qu'ran is saying when it says that God does not have sons.
     
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    i believe Paul would not have thought of it that way. He would have viewed it as the ancestry of the Jewish people.
     
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    I doubt it. Because he claims to be Jewish, and I dont think any Jewish person is that far apart.
     
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    Israel Khan Well-Known Member

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    Your fellow JW's disagree with you on this topic.

    Does that mean that you are not a true JW because you don't understand a belief?

    Jesus geneaology traces back to Adam, therefore he is a Son of Adam. (Luke 3:38)
     
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