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The injustice of Political Parties.

Get rid of Political parties?

  • No ( the Clinton and Trump way)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    5
  • Poll closed .

Father

Devourer of Truth
The existence of Political parties in this Nation is nothing new. from the Demo/Repubs vs the Federalists *before the democrats and republicans split* to the current monopoly of the system by idiots wearing blue fighting against idiots wearing red.

all and all we have been dealing with this stupidity for a while. one would assume that's just what this country was meant to be. those people are uneducated.

In Geroge Washington's farewell address. you know. the Washington. the one president who didn't actually want to be president but everyone just made him one because he was that good. the man who when he died Napoleon. yes, Napoleon gave a speech and had a 10-day requiem and the entire British royal navy *which was huge and a big deal back then* flew all flags at half mast. you know the nation whom he rebelled against and won. yeah, that Washington.

in his farewell address, he warned about 3 things. that we should have adhered too. but today we shall be focusing on the first one. about Factions.

1. “The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.”


2 “However Factions (Political Parties) may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”


It was never the intention of the founding father's for us to end up with party politics like this. such is something corrupted upon us and not designed. Democratic party. Republican party. green party. any party is unamerican and inherently Evil. and I rarely use that word due to its subjectivity but if I had to label something vile with it. it would be both Left and Right. for either or to say they stand and represent this nation is a joke. both represent nothing but themselves.

Ironic. is it not? that the greatest President we have ever had was a man who first. truly served this nation and won its independence. second. did not wish to ever represent the nation but did so out of a sense of Duty and Community service. who could have run for a lifetime but stepped down after 2 terms in fear if he died in office it would set the bar. a man who was unanimously voted across the board and represented no faction or ideology but that of the people.

we worship the constitution like it is a Bible and the founders like Gods yet do neither of what was intended or in our benefit. truly.

and is why I scoff and laugh at any who call themselves "Patriots" and yet when it comes time to choose they choose whoever wear's red or blue. not even if they sit well with they themselves or are good for the nation. not even if both suck. they still chose. even when there is an unpopular choice, even in vain. they could still vote for a third option. yet they do not. they stand steadfast in their ignorance. such people are no Patriots but feeble minded and pathetic slaves to Tyranny.

and should be ashamed to call themselves American

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Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Voted "Yes". We can't go back to 1789 and the technology we have such as television, radio, newspapers, the internet all serve as a potential propaganda medium which undermines the people's capacity for reason. A Politics driven by emotion can take us blindly down the road to dictatorship when those passions are misplaced. We have to learn to think for ourselves again because politics has been reduced to cults. But voting based on who the individual rather than a party label would probably improve the quality of politicians in the US.

I wish we had a Washington or a Lincoln around right now who could restore people's faith in the American system of government and unite them as Americans rather than divide them. It is a fragile bond that keeps people accepting each others freedom and it is being tested to its limits by the level of manufactured controversy.
 

proudpagan

Member
The truth is that elected representatives do not necessarily represent the interests of the community especially when it is a company incorporated in individualistic ideals. Democracy in its true sense is not about voting in any election in a given period of time. Democracy and freedom are inseparable, not something selfish like simply voting.Democracy is a responsibility to be part of the community and collaborate with it in an honest and positive way.The principle of leadership is of utmost importance.

Democracy of today is just like a diluted dictatorship . You think you have choice but either way its either capitalism or communism .True democracy cant work just by 30 men sitting at the center.
 

Father

Devourer of Truth
The truth is that elected representatives do not necessarily represent the interests of the community especially when it is a company incorporated in individualistic ideals. Democracy in its true sense is not about voting in any election in a given period of time. Democracy and freedom are inseparable, not something selfish like simply voting.Democracy is a responsibility to be part of the community and collaborate with it in an honest and positive way.The principle of leadership is of utmost importance.

Democracy of today is just like a diluted dictatorship . You think you have choice but either way its either capitalism or communism .True democracy cant work just by 30 men sitting at the center.
a true democracy is closer to a pirate ship or village. everyone gets one vote and those votes decide everything. we have more so a republic and is why we are labeled a republic. however, the Romans had ways like ostracization to feed out corruption and remove it when possible
 

proudpagan

Member
a true democracy is closer to a pirate ship or village. everyone gets one vote and those votes decide everything. we have more so a republic and is why we are labeled a republic. however, the Romans had ways like ostracization to feed out corruption and remove it when possible

Multiculturalism sucks because it gives birth to vote bank politics.
 

Father

Devourer of Truth
Multiculturalism sucks because it gives birth to vote bank politics.
Granted.I think its mixing with every culture we touch sucks. mixing with cultures of value does not. look to Japan after it took some from us. they kept there own but incorporated a small bit of others mainly us and made something new out of it.
the only way for two cultures to mix into one and become supieror is if

1. they are of equal or similar value(s) Example. German and French. close enough with similar enough values to mix and have mixed.
2. one holds dominance. two cultures of equal stance with not mix but separate and coagulate within themselves.

3. only keep if the product is Good. if not good. remove.

The issue we have is mixing too much and in turn losing our own. along with mixing with cultures of subservient value. how does one know if a culture is of subservient value?
look at its people and nation. if its people sick and twisted its nation district and impoverished, criminal and corrupt beyond repair. it holds no value and should be treated like the black death.
 

proudpagan

Member
The issue we have is mixing too much and in turn losing our own. along with mixing with cultures of subservient value. how does one know if a culture is of subservient value?

The problems of Neo-Liberalism and Globalization that are the root cause behind this need to be fought at home. It is more honourable to stay home and fight for the future of your nation rather than come to a new, foreign nation. And why I curse Capitalism ? For it gives birth to Globalism . And whats ****ing wrong with globalism ? It kills the domestic talents and make the natives jobless. You seeing that in America right . But then quickly I will be branded a racist ******* for making these points . Therefore I curse liberal seculars candle light brigades . They are massive runts. Screw them !

Just because someone wants to preserve their nationality and race doesn't make them a savage.
 

Father

Devourer of Truth
The problems of Neo-Liberalism and Globalization that are the root cause behind this need to be fought at home. It is more honourable to stay home and fight for the future of your nation rather than come to a new, foreign nation. And why I curse Capitalism ? For it gives birth to Globalism . And whats ****ing wrong with globalism ? It kills the domestic talents and make the natives jobless. You seeing that in America right . But then quickly I will be branded a racist ******* for making these points . Therefore I curse liberal seculars candle light brigades . They are massive runts. Screw them !

Just because someone wants to preserve their nationality and race doesn't make them a savage.

capitalism not chained by one's nation. capitalism is as old aristocracy. the key difference between Nobility and the Wealthy is the Nobility have many chains and reasons to hold loyalty to one's nation and people. the constant war that Europe and how globalization other than all falling under Rome or Holy Rome or Brittan. never happened. it was through normal conquest. but one always held loyalty to one's people. unrestricted capitalism breeds globalization as the controlling class of the 1% have no loyalty or reason to support one's people over any other. they are only in it for the money.
this opinion I am about to give may be unpopular but I truly think the bringing back of Aristocracy may actually solve this issue. if a sense of tradition, honor. and value in one's people is restored. an Aristocracy can still work with a republic and not inherit threaten the people any more than our current system. your thoughts?
 
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pearl

Well-Known Member
I wish we had a Washington or a Lincoln around right now who could restore people's faith in the American system of government and unite them as Americans rather than divide them. It is a fragile bond that keeps people accepting each others freedom and it is being tested to its limits by the level of manufactured controversy.

We divide ourselves when we vote out of our own selfish interests.
As for Lincoln, we pretty much still live with the aftermath of the civil war and those divisions have been raised to the fore.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
People unite around political interests. Just what rights are you willing to trample in order to prevent this political coming together? I warn you, it wont be easy. You certainly won't be able to effect such a change on your own, which begs the question: What might you name this new and onerous political party of yours?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
America is a multicultural society. That's never gonna change so not much point in talking about it.
True. However any common theme that had attracted multiculturalism in the first place has diminished to the point now, where multiculturalism is losing its allure and is becoming a thorn in people's sides through compulsory homogenisation.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Short of some unimaginable constitutional amendment, there is no legal method to outlaw “political parties,” as such are among the associational rights guaranteed in the First Amendment.

To even try to define the term “political party” (e.g., for purposes of a constitutional amendment) would be quite difficult. Are the NAACP, the KKK, LULAC, NOW, or the various “right to life” organizations “political parties”? If not, what distinguishes them from political parties?

Political party, a group of persons organized to acquire and exercise political power.​

political party

A political party is a group of people who come together to contest elections and hold power in the government. The party agrees on some proposed policies and programmes, with a view to promoting the collective good or furthering their supporters' interests.​

Political party - Wikipedia
 

Father

Devourer of Truth
People unite around political interests. Just what rights are you willing to trample in order to prevent this political coming together? I warn you, it wont be easy. You certainly won't be able to effect such a change on your own, which begs the question: What might you name this new and onerous political party of yours?
its fine to come together how do you think this nation was formed? however having banners and set creeds and playing the game like a chess board is no one's right. there is no constitutional right of ability to form factions
 
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