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The Ideological Shift in America

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
You describe the problem very well. Indoctrination is indeed the problem, but you miss the indoctrinators, in your bias against Christianity.

The transformation of American society is nearly complete, with progressive ideology dominating every human institution, and their agenda and propaganda exclusively promoted by State sponsored ideologues.

My disdain and hostility toward an anti-science agenda is justified for those that are undeniably guilty of what they accuse others. This anti-science is like a disease, with doctrines that infect and indoctrinates the young from generation to generation.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
No, more that eugenics in general got a rap because of the Nazis. Even though the Nazis got a lot of their ideas from the American eugenics movement and the laws and practices we had. It's easy to blame another group for "going too far" than it is to examine your own history and learn how it influenced that other group.
The Nazis also accidentally demonstrated that eugenics could not work, not how they were going about it. It never would have worked; and they didn't know about DNA. They were coming up with phenomenological measurements involving measuring the face and such! They could never have improved the race that way. Short of understanding DNA all they could come up with was to sterilize everybody that they considered a threat to their breeding program. It was destined to fail, and they excluded a lot of very strong DNA. They would have been much better off mixing everybody to see who was strongest, smartest etc.-- like those evil ben gesserit in Dune.
 

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
Why does the poster keep blaming Woodrow Wilson? He's not actually read in Marx and Darwin. Some countries like the Nazis develop a mindset from Darwin and Evolution of a fittest race.

Woodrow Wilson had never used the word communism I can see. He suspected the Russian people's have successfully obtained native Governance.

Woodrow Wilson assumes the stage to say that murderers are murderers. Incidents like the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire aren't alone. People assume slavery of locked doors, unsafe conditions, no escape, to women girls, when Woodrow Wilson remarks the Democrat party is being used in victory only meaningfully in the use of the people who trusted in Government. That's not really the situation that developed elsewhere.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
American education now:

1. Choose your gender..
2. Promote a narrative about climate change with minimal, inadequate statistics, juggled to produce the desired result, and bully anyone who dares question the myriads of assumptions and impossible conclusions, based only on a political agenda, not hard data.
3. Declare socialism as the best form of governance, and pound that with loud repetition into every student that passes through the state run indoctrination centers.
4. Mandate atheistic naturalism as the only state sanctioned religious belief. Bully and censor any outliers.
5. Divide and disrupt any open inquiry, or free expression of ideas with antifa shout downs and intimidation.
6. Race bait & divide the citizens into identity politics special interests, rather than a uniting ideology.
7. Promote a superior view of the educated elite, who are more highly evolved than the ignorant masses.
8. Promote relative morality, expediency, and amorality, not absolute morality.

Biology, climate science, social science, and just about every study of Reality has been hijacked by the progressive left, and are now tools for indoctrination. A broad minded, open education for consideration of other views is censored by left wing echo chambers, where the dull monotone of homogeneity shapes the leaders of the future.
Where on earth are you coming up with this stuff??
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I am the source. If i quote someone, i give credit. If i copy or paste, i will give the source.

I will take your implication of plagiarism as a compliment. :D
It appeared to be a copy & paste job to me, so please accept my apology since it apparently is not.
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
Yes, the lure of socialism is free stuff. ..living on other people's labors. ..and it does not work, and never has. Promoting an alluring lie may be attractive to some, but any student of history knows that the myriads of social experiments in collectivism have all failed, miserably.

So why is the allure of Marxism still so strong? Why do growing hordes of State sponsored indoctrinees cling to the illusion of collectivism as a viable social construct?

IMO, Indoctrination. Delusion and propaganda, to deceive the gullible with unworkable fantasies that have never worked.

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. ~Winston Churchill
You, Winston Churchill and many others are missing a vital point: We humans have yet to invent a government decision-making model that isn't corrupt, incompetent or both. So, you can't, for example, blame Russia's attempt at socialism on the plan since the execution of the plan was both corrupt and incompetent.

Capitalism's free market is useful only when fraud can be limited. That requires well-informed consumers spending their own money on products they can comparison shop.

For most services, especially financial services and health care, those criteria can't be met, so fraud runs rampant. The free market is simply the wrong tool for the job. Even poorly-managed "socialized" healthcare is better than the free market variety.
 
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