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Featured The Hadith, source of Islamic atrocities.

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by SA Huguenot, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. Mudramoksha

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    Why? you already know my answer is no without even asking me. Your question is just too hard, really.
     
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  2. Neutral Name

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    What I mean is that I have met some good Christians but I have met many people who call themselves Christians who are very hateful. Since Jesus said that the most important thing is to love God and others, if Christians are not following this, they are not following Jesus. If they are not following Jesus, they are not Christians. I am not trying to cut anyone down. I am trying to have people see the truth of Jesus so that they will act as Christians should. Matthew 7:13-7:14
     
  3. Wasp

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    100%to the hadith about prayer?
     
  4. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    Do you see how you are being lied too?
    The words are not adressed to the poor slave female, but to her Muslim master!
    The Arabic is very clear on its intent.
    These words "TO THEM is an insertion by Muslims who are too ashamed to admit that Muslims arfe allowed to ...
    1. have female captives
    2. and are not only allowed to rape them, but to even pimp them!

    Book on Quranic verses 1737
    Temporary marriages by giving a woman as little as a garment (Mutwah marriage) (To have a Quickie during war?) Muslims all over the Arab World can enter into a Muthwa marrage for a few hours, and it is according to the laws of Allah. Just a nother way to legalise islamic prostitution. manu of these women are actually kept by Muslim PIMPS, and they are forgiven for their practice under Islamic law.Muslims are not allowed to marry any women that are already married. Except of course, female slaves can be taken as a wife even if they are married! Q 4: 25[1].
    Marrage in Islam is a dirty thing.
    And one must call Allah when having intercourse.
    Book of Holy Quran Virtues 1854 When having sex, Allah must be called to keep Satan away.

    A muslim can "Marry" a non Muslim women in captivity, even if she are married!
    Q 4: 25And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess (female slaves). [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.
     
  5. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    When are you going to change your profile so we all can see...
    MUSLIM.
     
  6. Neutral Name

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    You are such an angry person. I'm sorry that you are so hateful.

    Matthew 22:36-40
    36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
    37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’
    38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
    39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’
    40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

    1 John
    4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

    Romans
    13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

    1 Corinthians

    13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not
    love, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

    13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all
    mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I
    could remove mountains, and have not love, I am nothing.

    13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I
    give my body to be burned, and have not love, it profiteth me
    nothing.

    13:4 Love suffereth long, and is kind; love envieth not; love
    vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

    13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily
    provoked, thinketh no evil;

    13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

    13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things,
    endureth all things.

    13:8 Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall
    fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be
    knowledge, it shall vanish away.


    1 Corinthians

    13:4 Love suffereth long, and is kind; love envieth not; love
    vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

    13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily
    provoked, thinketh no evil;

    13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

    13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things,
    endureth all things.

    13:8 Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall
    fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be
    knowledge, it shall vanish away.


    1 Peter 3:8-12
    Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind.
    Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called,
    that you may obtain a blessing. For “Whoever desires to love life and see good days, let him keep his tongue
    from evil and his lips from speaking deceit; let him turn away from evil and do good; let him seek peace and pursue it.
    For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and his ears are open to their prayer. But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.”

    1 John 3:17
    But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?

    Hebrews 10:24
    And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works,

    1 Peter 3:8
    Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind.

    John 8:47
    Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.”

    Philippians 2:3-4
    Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.

    James 1:26
    If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

    Titus 3:2
    To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people.

    Matthew 5:47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?

    Matthew 7:1 [ Judging Others ] “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.

    And let us not forget the woman at the well, a Samaritan, kind of like a Muslim today. And, of course, the story of the good Samaritan who helped the man from Jericho where Jesus describes your neighbor as everyone.

    I see no love, gentility or humility in you. Are you sure that you are a Christian?

    And you never gave me a good answer about children being killed and pregnant women being ripped open. No matter what, those are atrocities. If you don't believe that, you are completely without morals.
     
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  7. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    Here is something else Allah prescribes for you that might be good!
    (Al-Baqara 216) Sahih International
    “ Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not. ”Abdullah Yusuf Ali
     
  8. Wasp

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    I would but sugar ocean told me I'm not a Muslim.
     
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    Thanks. Help spread the word.
     
  10. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    I follow Jesus, He is my teacher.
    And if Jesus calls the deceivers out for what they are, why should I not?
    How else can one tell someone they are teaching the will of devils?
    I am a firm believer that Jesus preached Love, but I refuse to keep silent to hurt someone's feelings when I see that he is telling lies to innocent souls!
    This "Jesus loves" isa terrible weapon used by the enemy of Christ, to subdue the truth and reality of what realy is going on in the world.
    I love all people, I love Muslims, Buddists, LDS, JW's and all the other people on this Earth,
    I however will never lie to my own soull by excusing the religious lies!
    I hate the lies of Muhammad, Jim Jones, Buddah, and all these religions who have no concience when they kill the soul of MAN.
    I never fight any creatoin of God, I will also never stop fighting the ideologies of Satan.
    In otherwords, I am a word fighter.
    Matt 23:23 Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your fathers. 33You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape the sentence of hell? 34Because of this, I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify, and others you will flog in your synagogues and persecute in town after town.…
    Jesus called Vipers Vipers when they were vipers.
    Names Jesus Called the Scribes and Pharisees
    1. Ye blind guides (Matt. 23:16).
    2. Ye fools (Matt. 23:17).
    3. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees…for ye are like whited supulchres…full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness (Matt. 23:27).
    4. Ye serpents (Matt. 23:33).
    5. Ye generation of vipers (Matt. 23:33).
    6. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! (Luke 11:44).
    7. Ye are as graves which appear not (Luke 11:44).
     
  11. Wasp

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    We talked about the above before.

    27:80 "Truly thou canst not cause the dead to listen, nor canst thou cause the deaf to hear the call, (especially) when they turn back in retreat."
     
  12. SA Huguenot

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    You should never be ashamed of who you are, and who you worship.
    I worship Jesus.
    And no one will get me to hide this fact.
    Come on man, show us the truth!
    You have done more to further Islam on this forum, than any other Muslim.
     
  13. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    - That is your misunderstanding about Hinduism. Never tell a Hindu that he cannot believe this and must believe that. We are not Abrahamics. We have the right to believe what we believe. NO ONE can question it.
    - That is Pantheism and Panentheism. That is not my 'advaita'.
    - If you ask me (and many have done so), it is 'physical energy', not to be confused with any divine energy, but like light, heat, electricity, magnetism, etc. Perhaps we started with a ball of energy at the time of Big Bang. Brahman is that stuff.
    - It is your confusion speaking. I am an atheist, there is no God/Gods/Goddesses for me.
    - What the Abrahamic religions believe is none of my concern. I am not concerned even about what other Hindus believe. My belief is my belief.
     
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    Something like "it's not enough to merely be honest. It's also very important to be right."
     
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    That's so kind of you.

    I wouldn't like to take such credit.
     
  16. icehorse

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    You've got a tough case to make. Start by explaining: 2:191, 4:34, 7:81, 47:4, heck just explain the first couple of pages from Surah 2.

    And this is just to start. The book is filled - end to end - with hatred and violence.
     
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    2:190 "Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you but do not transgress, for Allah does not love transgressors."

    Clear?
     
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    The Majority of Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the reliable account of Muhammad's words and teachings. They do not think that Hadith supersedes the Qur'an. Do you disagree?

    If there are versions of Islam that put Hadith above Qur'an, please let me know? I do not think that would be Islam.

    They treat it as rumor if it contradicts the Qur'an, or if the Hadith contradict each other. Quoting Hadith is not the same as quoting the Word of God.
     
  20. icehorse

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    wrong verse
     
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