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The Georgia Guidestones have been demolished:

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yep, and maybe the government too for completing the work of the bomber.
The question is who is going to file the suit? Somebody must own the monument. Is it still "Robert Christian"?
If it is he should sue the government for destruction of property and infringing on his religious liberty.

In my opinion
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
The First Amendment; Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The US Government started to violate the free exercise of religion several decades ago. Now the same people on the Left, who started to prohibit religion, now censor free speech, in favor of liberal buzz words and agenda.

The very first term is the government shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. If this is taken literally, this exempts all religions that are already established. How can the government establish a religion that is already established? Who gets the credit if there are copyrights and intellectual property rights and money is being made? The answer is the first person who establishes and not the second person who makes the claim he established it. The government can not be the first to start a religion.

What the founders had in mind, was more like what the King of England had done when he broke away from the Catholic Church and then deemed himself the head of the Church of England. He established of a new style of religion, that was an amalgam of Christianity and Big Government, adding self serving exceptions all the way down to tithes=taxes. This morphing of religion was not allowed by government. Religion freedom was about total freedom, for all the established private sector religions. If you form a religion of two people, in the private sector, you are protected.

The first amendment has the terms Free speech and the Free exercise of religion, all in one sentence, since they meant these two things went together. In fact, religious freedom is expanded upon by what comes after the semi-colon. Freedom of religion include free speech both verbally and writing, alone or in a group. Like the press it could speak truth to power. This meant that saying a prayer in public, was no different than talking sports or politics, on public property; right to peacefully assemble, since all are under the umbrella of the freedom of speech given to religion. If you know how grammar works, the priories are easy to see.

Religious free speech was actually given higher priority, than secular free speech, since secular free speech is only implied by the term free speech given to religion. Religious free speech was directly singled out in the wording; top priority.

The Leftist government had no right to act like big brother and play favorites by limiting the free exercise of established private sector religion in publics spaces. The days of cheating Democracy are coming to an end. Democracy requires limiting government overreach into our basic freedoms.

If you look closely, the first Amendment wording does not say or imply that swear or insulting people is not allowed; verbally or written. There was never any list or mentions of exceptions to free speech written into the 1st Amendment. The right to petition the government was there to meet potential big brother censorship, at the pass, and set things right.

The right to peacefully assemble could be the short term exception to free speech, in the sense, if things are said that get people hot under the collar, and the assembly is no longer peaceful, then the assembly needs to be broken up. Free speech loses its audience for that day, but not for all time. The next day, the same things may become funny, by a clever comeback, so the assembly can stay peaceful.

Free speech, as a forward looking concept, means all the options to talk and write are on the table. The violation of free speech came about by dwelling on the needs of the emotionally unstable and those who lack common sense. If you yell fire in a crowed theater, only a dim wit would run without looking around and sniffing the air for smoke. Where there is smoke there is fire. A theatre of smart people, who do not smell smoke, would see this was a stunt connected to the dinner theater.

The decline in free speech began when everyone was emotional blackmailed, to be your brother's emotional keeper, with speech limited, based on those who were considered exceptions to adult sensibilities and common sense. We agreed to limit certain aspects of free speech to appease feelings. This exception approach, seemed fair and based on love, but it morphed and has reached the stage of partisan censorship based on Left wing philosophy of dual standards. One can use free speech to insult white males but the same wording place holders, cannot be used on any left wing protected group even if it applies. Only a Lefty can call a black Supreme Court Justice an Uncle Tom. It is hate speech for everyone else. This is what the good intentions morphed into.

When the Constitution was written, only male land owners could vote. Everyone who voted, had an iron in the fire; taxes, and had to have something on the ball to survive and thrive with family and civic responsibilities. They could handle the higher standard of free speech, since they were all active and productive adults seeking good information. But now you have women, children and men of all colors and creeds, without or without irons in the fire, who may not feel the need to man up, since so many victims excuses have been created by the Left ,for emotional slack. This has led to too many exceptions to free speech. Free speech requires all people act like adults and man up, so this rabbit hole of subjective exceptions to free speech can be covered up.

Saying he-she of they-them is free speech, until the government mandates this, since mandate means one is no longer free to say something else. Government has exceeded its power with a new generation of morphs and emotional scams, against free speech. Government is now being put back into its place by concerned parents, who are now redressing their grievances, and taking back their schools. Parents are not government. If they choose not to use certain terms, or not, this is free speech. Free speech also means, not having to say things designed for indoctrination.
 
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Heyo

Veteran Member
The First Amendment; Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The US Government started to violate the free exercise of religion several decades ago. Now the same people on the Left, who started to prohibit religion, now censor free speech, in favor of liberal buzz words and agenda.

The very first term is the government shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. If this is taken literally, this exempts all religions that are already established. How can the government establish a religion that is already established? Who gets the credit if there are copyrights and intellectual property rights and money is being made? The answer is the first person who establishes and not the second person who makes the claim he established it. The government can not be the first to start a religion.

What the founders had in mind, was more like what the King of England had done when he broke away from the Catholic Church and then deemed himself the head of the Church of England. He established of a new style of religion, that was an amalgam of Christianity and Big Government, adding self serving exceptions all the way down to tithes=taxes. This morphing of religion was not allowed by government. Religion freedom was about total freedom, for all the established private sector religions. If you form a religion of two people, in the private sector, you are protected.

The first amendment has the terms Free speech and the Free exercise of religion, all in one sentence, since they meant these two things went together. In fact, religious freedom is expanded upon by what comes after the semi-colon. Freedom of religion include free speech both verbally and writing, alone or in a group. Like the press it could speak truth to power. This meant that saying a prayer in public, was no different than talking sports or politics, on public property; right to peacefully assemble, since all are under the umbrella of the freedom of speech given to religion. If you know how grammar works, the priories are easy to see.

Religious free speech was actually given higher priority, than secular free speech, since secular free speech is only implied by the term free speech given to religion. Religious free speech was directly singled out in the wording; top priority.

The Leftist government had no right to act like big brother and play favorites by limiting the free exercise of established private sector religion in publics spaces. The days of cheating Democracy are coming to an end. Democracy requires limiting government overreach into our basic freedoms.

If you look closely, the first Amendment wording does not say or imply that swear or insulting people is not allowed; verbally or written. There was never any list or mentions of exceptions to free speech written into the 1st Amendment. The right to petition the government was there to meet potential big brother censorship, at the pass, and set things right.

The right to peacefully assemble could be the short term exception to free speech, in the sense, if things are said that get people hot under the collar, and the assembly is no longer peaceful, then the assembly needs to be broken up. Free speech loses its audience for that day, but not for all time. The next day, the same things may become funny, by a clever comeback, so the assembly can stay peaceful.

Free speech, as a forward looking concept, means all the options to talk and write are on the table. The violation of free speech came about by dwelling on the needs of the emotionally unstable and those who lack common sense. If you yell fire in a crowed theater, only a dim wit would run without looking around and sniffing the air for smoke. Where there is smoke there is fire. A theatre of smart people, who do not smell smoke, would see this was a stunt connected to the dinner theater.

The decline in free speech began when everyone was emotional blackmailed, to be your brother's emotional keeper, with speech limited, based on those who were considered exceptions to adult sensibilities and common sense. We agreed to limit certain aspects of free speech to appease feelings. This exception approach, seemed fair and based on love, but it morphed and has reached the stage of partisan censorship based on Left wing philosophy of dual standards. One can use free speech to insult white males but the same wording place holders, cannot be used on any left wing protected group even if it applies. Only a Lefty can call a black Supreme Court Justice an Uncle Tom. It is hate speech for everyone else. This is what the good intentions morphed into.

When the Constitution was written, only male land owners could vote. Everyone who voted, had an iron in the fire; taxes, and had to have something on the ball to survive and thrive with family and civic responsibilities. They could handle the higher standard of free speech, since they were all active and productive adults seeking good information. But now you have women, children and men of all colors and creeds, without or without irons in the fire, who may not feel the need to man up, since so many victims excuses have been created by the Left ,for emotional slack. This has led to too many exceptions to free speech. Free speech requires all people act like adults and man up, so this rabbit hole of subjective exceptions to free speech can be covered up.

Saying he-she of they-them is free speech, until the government mandates this, since mandate means one is no longer free to say something else. Government has exceeded its power with a new generation of morphs and emotional scams, against free speech. Government is now being put back into its place by concerned parents, who are now redressing their grievances, and taking back their schools. Parents are not government. If they choose not to use certain terms, or not, this is free speech. Free speech also means, not having to say things designed for indoctrination.
Wrong thread.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
What conservative world order? It doesn't exist.

They recently openly admitted this is a liberal world order. Something I had been saying for awhile.

I did not in fact condone bombing. I simply stated what I believe are probable facts. This is an act of defiance against the LBW and secondly it is good riddance. They took it down. The bomb only damaged it.

Besides it seems you want to harm people. Because people could be in churches. You're in fact violent. I suppose you want to bring the world population down like the monument said. That would be one motive for advocating murder and terrorism. Also it would be a hate crime to target Christian churches.

The left has already been going after monuments every chance they get and getting away with it. So let's not play the sanctimonious here like no one hsa ever harmed monuments and statues. That's just something the left would never do.

Now that we know you want to bomb churches ... atleast you're consistently in favor of killing more people. You also support abortion which I guess you believe will lower population counts as well.

I am not for bombing especially people's private property; but I am happy the spirit of the people rises to resist the plans of the elites.

I also wouldn't support stealing and throwing tea in the harbor but hey ... it got the point across.
Ohhhh, "they" said it. It must be true then. Scaaarrryyyyy. :rolleyes:
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Good. Surprised they lasted that long. They were evil; supporting eugenics, culling off about 93% of the population and world government. I mean, it's nice when "they" let us know what the agenda is, but we don't need idols to it.
How do you get that they supported eugenics? They may have but I cannot remember anything on them that support that. And no, they do not support culling. You are putting your own interpretation on those stones which tells the world more about you than it tells us about the stones.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
How do you get that they supported eugenics? They may have but I cannot remember anything on them that support that. And no, they do not support culling. You are putting your own interpretation on those stones which tells the world more about you than it tells us about the stones.
The second "guide" is clearly implying eugenics:
"Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity."

As for culling/depopulation, how else do you think we'll get rid of 93% of the population? This is the same sort of stuff that orgs like WEF and other technocrat elitists have been pushing for decades.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The second "guide" is clearly implying eugenics:
"Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity."

As for culling/depopulation, how else do you think we'll get rid of 93% of the population? This is the same sort of stuff that orgs like WEF and other technocrat elitists have been pushing for decades.
Guide is not force. That is a bit of a stretch. And you get rid of 93% of the population with birth control and limited reproduction until the goal is met. With one child per family it would take about 100 years to accomplish this goal.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The second "guide" is clearly implying eugenics:
"Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity."

As for culling/depopulation, how else do you think we'll get rid of 93% of the population? This is the same sort of stuff that orgs like WEF and other technocrat elitists have been pushing for decades.
"Diversity" and eugenics don't really go hand-in-hand, do they?

Fitness is about reproductive success.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
As for culling/depopulation, how else do you think we'll get rid of 93% of the population? This is the same sort of stuff that orgs like WEF and other technocrat elitists have been pushing for decades.
Why do you think it says "maintain" a population under 500 Million?
It only makes sense if we assume that the stones aren't there for us but for a future mankind after a catastrophe like a nuclear war.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Why do you think it says "maintain" a population under 500 Million?
It only makes sense if we assume that the stones aren't there for us but for a future mankind after a catastrophe like a nuclear war.
Or a goal to work towards. As I said earlier, there is no need for a culling. Perhaps something that the conservatives would like. if you want kids, you have to pay for them.
 
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