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The gay-bashing capital of Europe

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
If you think Amsterdam is the gay capital of Europe, you’re half-right, but 10 years out of date. Today it’s the gay-bashing capital of Europe.

Because Amsterdam isn’t just gay. Now it’s Muslim, too. A million Moroccans and Turks have immigrated to the Netherlands, and sharia law rules the streets.

If you doubt it, then you haven’t been paying attention. Actually, that’s not fair. Gay-bashing is front-page news only when it’s committed by a straight, white male.
The media is terribly uncomfortable writing about gay-bashing by minorities. It’s the same reason why Canadian feminists are so eerily quiet about honour killings of Muslim girls.

According to an “offender study” by the University of Amsterdam, there were 201 reports of anti-gay violence in that city in 2007 — and researchers believe for every reported case there are as many as 25 unreported ones. Two thirds of the predators are Muslim youths.

The violence couldn’t be more brazen. It’s not in the back alleys in the dark, it’s in the heart of the city, often in broad daylight. It’s a direct dare to the Dutch government to show who rules the streets.

In 2008, 10 Muslim youths broke into a fashion show, dragged gay model Michael du Pree off the stage and beat him bloody. Last month, several lesbians were hit by beer bottles thrown at their heads as they marched in a parade of thousands to protest violence against gays. There’s a gay community centre in Amsterdam — you’d think that would be safe. Wrong. It’s a target, with home-invasion style beatings. No one is immune. Last year Hugo Braakhuis, the founder of Amdsterdam’s gay pride parade, was attacked.

In 2005, Chris Crain, former editor of America’s leading gay magazine, Washington Blade, was swarmed by seven Moroccan youths. “I was really surprised,” Crain told reporters at the time. “I felt comfortable because it is San Francisco times 10.” Or it used to be.

This didn’t happen all at once. Ten years ago Pim Fortuyn rang the alarm. “I don’t hate Islam,” he said. “I consider it a backward culture.”

He wanted to halt Muslim immigration, at least until those in the country accepted Holland’s liberal values, such as its acceptance of him as an openly gay political leader. “How wonderful that that’s possible. And I’d like to keep it that way.”

Fortuyn was a Marxist professor, a champion of gay rights, women’s rights, liberal drug laws and euthanasia. Yet, because he opposed Muslim immigration, the CBC called him “right wing.”

Fortuyn was assassinated in 2002 by a leftist radical opposed to his views on Islam.

Next came Theo van Gogh, a descendant of artist Vincent van Gogh. He made a movie about Islam’s treatment of women, called Submission.

A 26-year-old Dutch-Moroccan named Mohammed Bouyeri shot him eight times and tried to cut his head off. Then Bouyeri stabbed a knife into van Gogh’s chest with a letter threatening Western governments, Jews, and van Gogh’s collaborator, a liberal Muslim named Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Hirsi Ali was placed under police protection, until a judge ordered her out of her safe house. She now lives in the United States. Fortuyn, van Gogh and Hirsi Ali are gone from Holland, but the Moroccans and Turks aren’t.

Now comes Geert Wilders. Wilders is the leader of the Party for Freedom, the third-most popular party in Holland. The party joined the new government coalition in return for immigration cuts and a ban on burkas, the face-covering shrouds worn by some Muslim women.

His ideas are mainstream enough to become government policy. But this week, Wilders stood trial for “hate crimes” for those very same ideas.

Prosecutors say it’s a crime to compare the Qur’an to Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf, as Wilders has done, and that he has caused too much of the human emotion called hate.

Mohamed Rabbae supports the prosecution. He’s the chairman of the National Moroccan Council. He wants a judge to order Wilders to apologize. “We are for correcting him,” he said.

Rabbae is for a coerced apology and forced political re-education. And the Associated Press calls Rabbae a moderate.

These days, in Holland, unfortunately that’s true.

Gay-bashers thrive in modern-day Netherlands | Ezra Levant | Columnists | Comment | Toronto Sun

Wow - from one extreme to the other - and all in little old Holland.

Your thoughts?
 
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Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
If you think Amsterdam is the gay capital of Europe, you’re half-right, but 10 years out of date. Today it’s the gay-bashing capital of Europe.

Because Amsterdam isn’t just gay. Now it’s Muslim, too. A million Moroccans and Turks have immigrated to the Netherlands, and sharia law rules the streets.

If you doubt it, then you haven’t been paying attention. Actually, that’s not fair. Gay-bashing is front-page news only when it’s committed by a straight, white male.
The media is terribly uncomfortable writing about gay-bashing by minorities. It’s the same reason why Canadian feminists are so eerily quiet about honour killings of Muslim girls.

According to an “offender study” by the University of Amsterdam, there were 201 reports of anti-gay violence in that city in 2007 — and researchers believe for every reported case there are as many as 25 unreported ones. Two thirds of the predators are Muslim youths.

The violence couldn’t be more brazen. It’s not in the back alleys in the dark, it’s in the heart of the city, often in broad daylight. It’s a direct dare to the Dutch government to show who rules the streets.

In 2008, 10 Muslim youths broke into a fashion show, dragged gay model Michael du Pree off the stage and beat him bloody. Last month, several lesbians were hit by beer bottles thrown at their heads as they marched in a parade of thousands to protest violence against gays. There’s a gay community centre in Amsterdam — you’d think that would be safe. Wrong. It’s a target, with home-invasion style beatings. No one is immune. Last year Hugo Braakhuis, the founder of Amdsterdam’s gay pride parade, was attacked.

In 2005, Chris Crain, former editor of America’s leading gay magazine, Washington Blade, was swarmed by seven Moroccan youths. “I was really surprised,” Crain told reporters at the time. “I felt comfortable because it is San Francisco times 10.” Or it used to be.

This didn’t happen all at once. Ten years ago Pim Fortuyn rang the alarm. “I don’t hate Islam,” he said. “I consider it a backward culture.”

He wanted to halt Muslim immigration, at least until those in the country accepted Holland’s liberal values, such as its acceptance of him as an openly gay political leader. “How wonderful that that’s possible. And I’d like to keep it that way.”

Fortuyn was a Marxist professor, a champion of gay rights, women’s rights, liberal drug laws and euthanasia. Yet, because he opposed Muslim immigration, the CBC called him “right wing.”

Fortuyn was assassinated in 2002 by a leftist radical opposed to his views on Islam.

Next came Theo van Gogh, a descendant of artist Vincent van Gogh. He made a movie about Islam’s treatment of women, called Submission.

A 26-year-old Dutch-Moroccan named Mohammed Bouyeri shot him eight times and tried to cut his head off. Then Bouyeri stabbed a knife into van Gogh’s chest with a letter threatening Western governments, Jews, and van Gogh’s collaborator, a liberal Muslim named Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Hirsi Ali was placed under police protection, until a judge ordered her out of her safe house. She now lives in the United States. Fortuyn, van Gogh and Hirsi Ali are gone from Holland, but the Moroccans and Turks aren’t.

Now comes Geert Wilders. Wilders is the leader of the Party for Freedom, the third-most popular party in Holland. The party joined the new government coalition in return for immigration cuts and a ban on burkas, the face-covering shrouds worn by some Muslim women.

His ideas are mainstream enough to become government policy. But this week, Wilders stood trial for “hate crimes” for those very same ideas.

Prosecutors say it’s a crime to compare the Qur’an to Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf, as Wilders has done, and that he has caused too much of the human emotion called hate.

Mohamed Rabbae supports the prosecution. He’s the chairman of the National Moroccan Council. He wants a judge to order Wilders to apologize. “We are for correcting him,” he said.

Rabbae is for a coerced apology and forced political re-education. And the Associated Press calls Rabbae a moderate.

These days, in Holland, unfortunately that’s true.

Gay-bashers thrive in modern-day Netherlands | Ezra Levant | Columnists | Comment | Toronto Sun

Wow - from one extreme to the other - and all in little old Holland.

Your thoughts?

I have only one thought.

How can Islam call itself the religion of peace?
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
What's even worse is that moderate peace-loving Muslims won't speak out against the psychotic Double Muslims s because they're afraid for their lives. So that's why we never see moderate Islam do anything worthwhile on the world stage ...
 

Smoke

Done here.
The increase in Muslim extremism Europe and the resultant increase in right-wing extremism are both troubling to me, but a country that allows immigrants to terrorize the natives of the country is doomed. Netherlands is one of the hardest countries in the world to immigrate to. I can't imagine for the life of me why they'd be so damned stupid as to allow all these criminals from backwards countries to flood their streets.
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
The increase in Muslim extremism Europe and the resultant increase in right-wing extremism are both troubling to me, but a country that allows immigrants to terrorize the natives of the country is doomed. Netherlands is one of the hardest countries in the world to immigrate to. I can't imagine for the life of me why they'd be so damned stupid as to allow all these criminals from backwards countries to flood their streets.

I'll tell you why. It's because they didn't want to do anything that might upset the criminals. And why is that, you might ask? Because Europe would rather bow to radical Islam than be considered politically incorrect. When radical Islam presents a boot for them to lick, they'll lick it with gratitude.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
What you outline is not pleasant.
But capital?
That'd be Belgrade
The Associated Press: Far-right Serb investigated for anti-gay violence

Wow, amazing.

You know what is so ironic to me? That all this "tolerance" and "politically correct" pandering to immigrants determined NOT to assimilate into native societies is, well....simply not paying off well.

You could hardly find a more liberal and tolerant group of people than the LGBT community - and yet they are the targets of these criminal immigrants. Be warned - they are just ONE of many targets.

Like my dad always says, "Never tangle with someone who is prepared to be more radical than you are." All the "open mindedness" in the world will get you absolutely NOWHERE with radical extremists.

It's like the old proverb about the snake and the mouse both starving on a desert island. They strike a deal to cooperate so they can both survive. But suddenly one day, the snake lunges at the mouse and right before he swallows him, the mouse squeaks "But you promised you wouldn't eat me!"

To which the snake replies simply, "But...I'm a snake."
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
Wow, amazing.

You know what is so ironic to me? That all this "tolerance" and "politically correct" pandering to immigrants determined NOT to assimilate into native societies is, well....simply not paying off well.

You could hardly find a more liberal and tolerant group of people than the LGBT community - and yet they are the targets of these criminal immigrants. Be warned - they are just ONE of many targets.

Like my dad always says, "Never tangle with someone who is prepared to be more radical than you are." All the "open mindedness" in the world will get you absolutely NOWHERE with radical extremists.

It's like the old proverb about the snake and the mouse both starving on a desert island. They strike a deal to cooperate so they can both survive. But suddenly one day, the snake lunges at the mouse and right before he swallows him, the mouse squeaks "But you promised you wouldn't eat me!"

To which the snake replies simply, "But...I'm a snake."


"... and I can't help my nature." :D

I've heard a few different variations of that story.
 

beenie

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
What's even worse is that moderate peace-loving Muslims won't speak out against the psychotic Double Muslims s because they're afraid for their lives. So that's why we never see moderate Islam do anything worthwhile on the world stage ...

i'll speak out against it.
it's ridiculous. i wish these idiots would just mind their own business and stop making us all look bad. why do they care what others do? geesh, get over yourselves, people. look in the mirror and ask how you can improve yourself before attacking others.
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
 

Smoke

Done here.
This thread is absurd and possibly racist.

If you can't manage any comment but calling names, that's fine with me. Call me a racist. I dislike the "race" of violent religious bigots. I dislike the "race" of people who cannot tolerate the idea of a pluralistic society and act out their intolerance in violent ways.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Interesting. If I saw redneck or Arab attacking a gay person, I would retaliate against them with open force.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Sorry, but hating a group of people who are adamant on group preying on innocent people because they are gay is not racist, it is sensible.
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
This thread is absurd and possibly racist.

Wow theres the racism card. Get over yourself.

You just reinforced the problem. As soon as someone other than white males do something its no longer racist and is brushed under the carpet.

Sadly in every city i've spent an extended period of time in worldwide there have been issues with muslim youths attacking innocents. Goppingen in Germany is a town of 30,000 where all my German friends can't go out at night without fear of being assaulted. Same as where i am in Australia and every other major city in the country.

Call me racist if you want but at the end of the day you're still ignoring reality.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Unfortunately sometimes groups of people reinforce stereotypes.

That being said - Dustin, if you saw a gay person attacking a redneck or an Arab, would you retaliate against them with open force as well?
 

Reptillian

Hamburgler Extraordinaire
I've heard a few variants of that snake and mouse story too. I've never liked the story's suggestion that people can't change. One of Jesus' teachings I've always liked is that we should be willing to forgive since people can change. Just because a person made bad choices in the past it doesn't mean that they have to keep making them in the future.
 
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