The FLOOD, God's Great Failure?

[Skwim]

I only post the following in light of the contention that god is infallible and can do no wrong.

Genesis 6:5-7 (NKJV)
5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have
created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”

Now if anyone sees the flood as a success please point it out.

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[Kenny]

WOW, LOL It never ceases to amaze me how we can look at pictures and come to diverse understandings.

I see the first.... man without God
The second... God helping man
Third... man without God.

Man!! I am sure glad there is mercy!

 

[Kilgore Trout]

It was a success in making us all the result of extreme inbreeding.

 

[Altfish]

It created the Grand Canyon

 

[Skwim]

WOW, LOL It never ceases to amaze me how we can look at pictures and come to diverse understandings.

I see the first.... man without God
The second... God helping man
Third... man without God.

Man!! I am sure glad there is mercy!

Then I assume you see no success either.

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[Kemosloby]

"A little leaven leavens the whole lump" I think it was Gods way of showing us that he can't even leave someone like Noah alive. A flood won't fix things, which is why there is a "last day".

 

[Skwim]

It was a success in making us all the result of extreme inbreeding.

Well the process was well on its way anyway.

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[sun rise]

It was a success in making us all the result of extreme inbreeding.

Small populations are apparently part of the evolutionary process allowing new forms to take root and spread.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

WOW, LOL It never ceases to amaze me how we can look at pictures and come to diverse understandings.

I see the first.... man without God
The second... God helping man
Third... man without God.

Man!! I am sure glad there is mercy!

The fact that you think driving a whole planet's worth of species to the brink of extinction is 'helping them' is rather concerning. Especially when the being doing it had

1. No reason to not see this coming as he's (apparently) omniscient;
2. Literally every other non-violent option at his disposal because he's (apparently) omnipotent

 

[viole]

"A little leaven leavens the whole lump" I think it was Gods way of showing us that he can't even leave someone like Noah alive. A flood won't fix things, which is why there is a "last day".

With "us", do you mean the ones who did not drown?

Ciao

- ciole

 

[Kemosloby]

With "us", do you mean the ones who did not drown?

Ciao

- ciole

Who knows, maybe it's for those in heaven. Maybe God uses us to show them in heaven the nature of sin. Perhaps for us too, looking back someday on the whole deal after the resurrection.

 

[Aštra’el]

The biblical flood myth was obviously inspired by the ancient Mesopotamian myths involving Atrahasis and Utnapishtim.

Even if a massive flood did happen, and God(s) did destroy humanity in an epic deluge, I would lose no respect for God(s).

 

[Kemosloby]

In general,islam says that in noah's times human were living for very long years,I do not know if other abrahamic religion say the same thing,do they?

Yes the Jewish/Christian old testament says they lived for 1,000 years before the flood.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Small populations are apparently part of the evolutionary process allowing new forms to take root and spread.

If you really want to get serious about this and bring evolutionary biology into it then lookup the concepts of "minimum viable population," and "population (or genetic) bottlenecks."

 

[Kenny]

Then I assume you see no success either.

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I see success everywhere.

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Of course, if you limit your pictures to just just those three... then we might be creating our own story.

 

[Kenny]

The fact that you think driving a whole planet's worth of species to the brink of extinction is 'helping them' is rather concerning. Especially when the being doing it had

1. No reason to not see this coming as he's (apparently) omniscient;
2. Literally every other non-violent option at his disposal because he's (apparently) omnipotent

Then again, as is the fear of today, if the potential was for mankind to destroy itself, he may have saved the species.

 

[Kenny]

In general,islam says that in noah's times human were living for very long years,I do not know if other abrahamic religion say the same thing,do they?

Yes for both of the Jewish faith and Christians.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

WOW, LOL It never ceases to amaze me how we can look at pictures and come to diverse understandings.

I see the first.... man without God
The second... God helping man
Third... man without God.

Man!! I am sure glad there is mercy!

Umm... I think your assessment of the pictures was EXACTLY the point. That God failed in creating man the first time, and that things didn't go any better the second time around. Way to underscore the point made in the OP. You're a champ.

 

[Kenny]

Umm... I think your assessment of the pictures was EXACTLY the point. That God failed in creating man the first time, and that things didn't go any better the second time around. Way to underscore the point made in the OP. You're a champ.

I can't seem to wrap my arms around that. Especially if one logically factors in the whole of the story and the reasons why.

It is like judging a book by its cover or reading a "Who done it" mystery book. Until you reach the end of a story, you really don't know.

 

[Aštra’el]

I like this excerpt from a pre-biblical version, describing the flood itself:

..."In the morning darkness
In the evening a rain of heaviness
I shall shower down
Enter the ark and close shut the door!"

The hour arrived

In the morning darkness
In the evening heaviness showered down
I saw the shape of the storm
The storm was terrifying to see
I went aboard the ark and closed shut the door

When the first light of dawn appeared
Black clouds approached from the horizon
Adad thundered from inside it
Shullat and Hanish marched from the front
Marching as harbingers over the mountains and the desert
Erakal pulled out the mooring poles
Ninurta marched in and made the weirs overflow
The Anunnaki carried flame in their hands
And lit up the land with their lightning

The calm before Enlil's wrath came over the sky
Everything that was light turned to darkness
On the first day the tempest rose up
Blew swiftly and brought the flood weapon
Like a force of war
The destructive kašūšu-weapon passed over the people
No man could see his fellow
Nor could people be distinguished from the storm

Even the gods were afraid of the flood weapon
They withdrew, ascending into the heaven of Anu
The gods were terrified, crouching outside the celestial walls
Ishtar screamed like a woman giving birth
The Mistress of the gods, sweet of voice, was screaming
"Has that time really returned to clay,
Because I spoke evil in the gods' assembly?
How could I have spoken such evil in the gods' assembly?
Should I have ordered a catastrophe to destroy my people?
I myself gave birth to them
They are my own people
Yet now their corpses will fill the sea!"
The Annunaki gods wept with her
The gods, humbled, sat there weeping
Their lips burning, parched with thirst

For six days and seven nights
The wind blew
Flood and tempest overwhelmed the land
Like a woman writhing in labor
When the seventh day arrived, the tempest, flood and onslaught
Blew themselves out
The sea became calm
The imhullu-wind grew quiet
The flood held back

I looked at the weather, silence reigned
For all mankind had returned to clay..."