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questfortruth

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Why the fall of Christianity? The status quo of the US was Christianity.


HISTORIC record:
1962 - Engel v. Vitale: removal of prayer in public schools by "supreme court".
1963 - Abington School District v. Schempp: removal of Bible reading in public schools by the "supreme court".
1973 - Roe v. Wade: "legalized" abortions by the "supreme court".
2013 - US v. Windsor: the "supreme court" struck down the defense of marriage act (DOMA).
2015 - Obergefell v. Hodges: LGBTQ won.

SOURCE of the historic record:

 

Eyes to See

Well-Known Member
Revelation 16:12 says:

"The sixth one poured out his bowl on the great river Eu·phraʹtes, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the rising of the sun."

The waters, that is the peoples upon whom the worldwide empire of false religion sits, will dry up before the coming great and fear inspiring day of Armageddon.

The drying up of her waters is thus no surprise, and in fulfillment of Bible prophecy. The end is very near.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Why the fall of Christianity? The status quo of the US was Christianity.


HISTORIC record:
1962 - Engel v. Vitale: removal of prayer in public schools by "supreme court".
1963 - Abington School District v. Schempp: removal of Bible reading in public schools by the "supreme court".
1973 - Roe v. Wade: "legalized" abortions by the "supreme court".
2013 - US v. Windsor: the "supreme court" struck down the defense of marriage act (DOMA).
2015 - Obergefell v. Hodges: LGBTQ won.

SOURCE of the historic record:

You can pray all you please in schools. Teachers just can't lead it as a class activity during school hours. I used to bring my Bible with me, leave it on the desk and read it during school.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Don't forget how US schools teach evolution since the 19th century, or how the 1791 Bill of Rights prevented any attempts at making Christianity America's official state religion.
If it is so ancient, then why only from 1962 the actual demolition of the Christian US has started?
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
The founding fathers wanted to avoid religious tyranny, not embrace it. If your religion can't survive without it being imposed upon others them it deserves to fall. The U.S. is not, was not, nor will be a theocracy.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
It is curious how all of the events characterized in the OP as "the demolition of the Christian US" are court rulings increasing diversity or liberty. One might conclude from this that a "Christian US" is relatively repressive. That's a strange ideal for people who believe themselves followers of Jesus to harbor.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Why the fall of Christianity? The status quo of the US was Christianity.

HISTORIC record:
1962 - Engel v. Vitale: removal of prayer in public schools by "supreme court".
1963 - Abington School District v. Schempp: removal of Bible reading in public schools by the "supreme court".
1973 - Roe v. Wade: "legalized" abortions by the "supreme court".
2013 - US v. Windsor: the "supreme court" struck down the defense of marriage act (DOMA).
2015 - Obergefell v. Hodges: LGBTQ won.

SOURCE of the historic record:

Looks like every step was a good one.
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
Why the fall of Christianity? The status quo of the US was Christianity.
People often announce the fall of Christianity, but so far they have always been incorrect. They announce and announce, but announcing does not make it happen. The USSR tried to end it, but it could not.

If you visit the United States you will see many, many churches. There are just so many. Everywhere you go there are churches.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
If it is so ancient, then why only from 1962 the actual demolition of the Christian US has started?

There is no demolition of Christianity. Churches are still tax exempt. Preachers can still say whatever they want. People can attend any church they want.

The only difference is that the government doesn't give Christianity any extra rights that other religions do not have. It no longer tries to institute laws that give extra benefits to one religion over others. And, it focuses on laws that have a secular benefit that promotes the freedoms of the citizens.

The US government has always been a *secular* one. Even going back to the Treaty of Tripoli in 1797, it has repeatedly stated that there is no state sanctified religion.

Every single step you mention in your OP is a positive step for a *secular* society that respects all religions equally.

It is interesting the Christians feel this is in some way a demolition.
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
Why the fall of Christianity? The status quo of the US was Christianity.


HISTORIC record:
1962 - Engel v. Vitale: removal of prayer in public schools by "supreme court".
1963 - Abington School District v. Schempp: removal of Bible reading in public schools by the "supreme court".
1973 - Roe v. Wade: "legalized" abortions by the "supreme court".
2013 - US v. Windsor: the "supreme court" struck down the defense of marriage act (DOMA).
2015 - Obergefell v. Hodges: LGBTQ won.

SOURCE of the historic record:
You forgot:
December 6, 1865 13th amendment was ratified.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Religion thrives where people feel insecure and threatened. It declines where people feel safe and secure. Americans don't feel safe and secure. They take refuge in religion &/or nationalism and signal their power with guns.
Religion is declining in western Europe and Scandinavia. I don't see expect it to decline much in the US.

The US has extreme economic stratification, low social mobility, stagnant wages, a declining middle class, a deteriorating social safety net, deteriorating infrastructure, expensive housing, education and healthcare; and increasing diversity frightening the declining dominant class.
 

MNoBody

Well-Known Member
saw this earlier ...seems to fit here.
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