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The End of Trump

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Windwalker, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Windwalker

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    I think this is a tragic, yet fitting end to America's worst president in its history. All his right-wing militia supporters, from Proud Boys, to America First, to the Oath Keepers, are all now calling him "very weak and flaccid", a "total failure", "surrendering", unpatriotic and such. They are abandoning him and the G.O.P. ‘A Total Failure’: The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump

    This video ad from the Lincoln Project aptly summarizes the Trump legacy he has left America with. It should add "Never Forget" to it. I hope his horrible legacy will stand as a warning to the future.



    Now, America begins to rebuild.
     
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  2. Nakosis

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    Nobody likes a loser.

    I suspect more so in politics than anywhere else. Folks like that want to ride the coattails of success. Doesn't matter how you succeed only that you do.
     
  3. sun rise

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    But there are some "republicans" who still believe or something. They want to primary Liz Cheney for daring to vote her beliefs. And they are throwing shade on Garth Brooks for performing at Biden's inauguration.

    Maybe they're just trying to pander to those who don't care any more, maybe they're just being utterly cynical or maybe they really are utter authoritarians but they're still waving their dark banners.
     
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    That I can understand from psychology POV

    Narcissists are known to be unable to admit they were wrong
    Even if the whole world tells them they are wrong with proof, they still won't admit
    Admitting to be wrong feels they are failures and their youth trauma can't handle this
     
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    Pick a better guy next time.
     
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    He was not the least in lying
    He was not the least in firing people
    He was not the least in creating chaos in the world
    He was not the least in entertaining the world
    He was not the least in dancing:cool:
     
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  7. Jayhawker Soule

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    I would say that it's fitting rather than tragic.
     
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    Don't forget real estate deals:

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  9. A Vestigial Mote

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    I'd actually like to think that they instead saw all the opposition to their ideas, and the fact that the country was going to bring defense/force/consequences to bear in order to keep them from achieving their goals, and that it scared the crap out of them. Hence making them (by their standards) the "very weak and flaccid", "surrendering" types along with Trump.

    Easier to blame their lack of action on Trump "failing" than it is to admit that they ended up not having the balls to act.
     
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  10. SomeRandom

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    Whilst I try not to partake in schadenfreude I hear this and I’m like
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    That's a really good point. They are projecting their own fears and sins of themselves upon others, like Donald did every time he accused another of something, like "stealing the election", when that we his doing all along.
     
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    "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore."

    I'll pronounce Trump politically dead when there is six feet of earth between his dead body and the nearest access point to a social media platform of any kind.
     
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    Same here. I'm enjoying this news. But I'm not laughing so hard I close my eyes.
     
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    Ahh, engaging in a little moderation, eh? ;)
     
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    As it happens, there is actually a body of science that's relevant here. I'm surprised it has never been much reported on during the past 4 years because it's large and revealing, having come out of research begun in the late 40s or early 50s on Hitler's followers.

    Enough said, here's the key fact: Trump's followers are leaving him (for now) for exactly the reasons they say they are. They currently see him as "defeated". That's the weight of the research. The consensus opinion.

    Specifically, people who follow authoritarian leaders like Trump, and who behave like Trump's followers did, will abandon their leader in only one circumstance. Only one. He must be seen to have been defeated.

    He can do anything else in the world and they will stick with him, but he must not seen by them to have been defeated.

    Even then, you'll have some who 'cling to the past.'

    A short, but solid introduction to the science on this is Robert Altemeyer's "The Authoritarians", which is available online for free.
     
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    Tears I'm shedding over the tragedy of it all blind my eyes and stream down my face, Jay, but I'm dancing. I'm dancing through the tears.
     
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    Jeebers! Even you! Everyone has to get in on the act of proving they write better poetry than me, don't they? *sigh*
     
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    One of the most interesting set of statistics was left out of the video, Windwalker, and might never be really known beyond a rough guess.

    Trump's four balance sheets and his four profit and loss statements from the years he was in business as president of the United States. The pardons alone were sold for millions. And apparently he also expanded at some point into selling state secrets -- that is classified information. Then, there were the objects he stole from the White House, including the bust of Lincoln. Add to those things so much besides.
     
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    LOL

    If you think this is the end of Donald Trump you are mistaken.
     
  20. Jayhawker Soule

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    His or yours?
     
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