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the easy forgivness

let us just get straight to the point ,
first let us see why christians choose to be Christians or choose to still believe in this kind of faith ,
1- the most important thing the christians care and believe and talk about is the forgiveness and this is the only thing they talk about all the time, and they keep on and on talking about it as if it is a drug they have administerd to themselves which they are not aware about anything esle , they are don't care about if its facts or fake because most of them already know it just fake:ignore:
2- another kind of christian believe they can not question or ask about any thing in the bible cause its out of discussion for them , they blindly believing every thing they are told , and i just want to ask them what if it is Satan's book and its written on it (this is the book of god and you can not question any thing ? ) blindly and u r believing with this book they call the bible,
and i wonder if any christian has ever asked him or herself .if my faith is the right faith ? or why i am the only and all the others are wrong , i don't think there's is such kind of Christian who would think in such away , because simply they don't want to know any thing , nothing about god , nothing about Jesus , nothing about the bible , they are not looking for anythng at all . the only thing they care about is they got the most easy way to forgiveness , they just want to be forgiven , so they can enjoy with their lives , drinking dancing , having fun , bing bang with any Friend , all of this is valid , because they got the easy forgiveness any way


i don't wonder why their lives are full with porno and ******** war and blood , its all just a normal thing for them , nothing new , they grow up with such beliefs and its all in their bible any way , when you grow up with such book then its became the normal nature for you and then all the other people are wrong in according to you , in fact i believe what they call a bible is the most dangerous book to distort t the world , the societies , and the humanity ,
you might think i am talking from my own points a view as a Muslim , but let me tell I've tried to know if what you call a bible is the book of god or not , I've tried to know if its the word of god or not , but mostly its not , i believe there are alot of good words and sayings , acute , some wisdom , but in general , its can't be the word of god , first a way from the bible and as well from quraan or any other you have to know what it means (the word of god ) and you should know why god would send for us a book ? ,,,
as some people say the bible is full with mysteries , but i don't know why the word of god should be a mysterious book , then why would god send his book like this that he knows we can not understand ??
why would god send a mysterious book for the people (the bible) and ask them to understand it and believe it ?? what is the reason ? and how to understand it ??
and how can u believe in something u can not understand ??
its like if u give insane person a maths book and U are asking him to solve and understand it ..or it seems that ur giving a stupid book for normal minded person and asking him to believe it is the word of god
why should i accept such mysterious book as the word of god ??? ,, some Christians say we need the holy spirit to understand the bible ,
does that means the book should always be with the holy spirit ???? and i wonder if u buy a bible do u buy it alone or with the holy spirit ???
,, well let us see another point aview ,,,

about the old testament , u know Jesus said according to the bible (Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.)
which means u have to accept and you have to work with old testament beside the new one , but u know the bible mentioned alot of things which Jesus changed
plus u all know that u can not accept alot of things that are written in the old testament . does this mean u just consider it useless and invalid or is it just a midnight story book for u ??

,,another point aview ,,,,
we can see now why Christians are fighting for the oil and to control the lands and the people, even we have seen how Christians have fought when one of their leaders has been insulted or has been killed or any such similar cases , but , we have never known did they do any thing while Jesus was on the cross
according to the Christian beliefs while Jesus was on the cross shouldering all the pain and facing death to forgive his people and on the other hand his people were just sitting around helpless and cowards or were they just enjoying watching this kind of drama ?!!!

and another point aview ,,,,
why do Christians talking only about forgiveness and salvation , peace and love verses in the bible but they don't talk about the porno and killing and blood verses in the same bible ???
i think its the only way you have to convince yourself its the book of god and u are already have been forgiven
the christians see only forgiveness and salvation in the bible and they can not see any think else about the blood and killing and porno stuff , that's is the only thing they care about ,they have been forgiven , nothing more ,,,
adding to the bible being distorted book Christians themselves distort the meanings of the words to get their fake conclusions they are beening forgiven, the most easy and fancy way to escape from thier duties and god's orders ,

let us see what we can find in the bible ,, and don't tell me its not in it , cause u would be a liar , (which i know its Ur nature too ) . let us see , see what u call a bible ----sh it , and peee and asses , war and blood ,porno and prostitution , eunuchs and a woman eating her children , animals with seven heads , fancy stories and alot more besides,,,,
its not a book even which your children should read , but you can say its a adultery book .
i don't wonder why the western life is full with porno and ******** , immorality liberalism , lewdness and dissipation
now wonder Ur life is so full with killing people and war and blood because its all from the bible ,
and no wonder u r doing all these things because u have grown up with it , and now its has become normal nature for u to do this,,,
and no wonder u are fooling yourself to believe in this the book you call the word of god the bible because its the only way u can have the easy way out with forgiveness and salvation to escape away from Ur mistakes and your duties
and all because they have fooled you , and ur fooling yourself with a fake book which you call the word of god , the bible ,,,
what is the reason to be a christian ?
the only reason to be christian is having the easy forgiveness as you claim , so with such belief you just about enjoying Ur life , committing any sins you like while you know that there was some one on the cross to wash your dirtiness and your sins to make you feel free .
you like to be Christians because its just an undercover for infidelity and blasphemy
so U are in between not feeling bad about yourself and enjoying Ur life as well
you are Christians because your parents have brain washed to thinking that was as they had been brain washed also and you have found it the easy way to enjoy your life having the easy forgiveness even if does'nt matter to you if its fake or not ,,,
what if u had grown up in a family and friends and in society and they have taught u since u were little that god is a fly?? would it be the same thing as you believe that Jesus is a lamb??
the same as when they teach u numbers they start with no 3 , then later on if someone tries to corrects u that the number u should start with is one , u are going to believe that they are wrong even if they are right and U are wrong,,,

search for the next part of this article
read for me
the easy forgivness
false christs strategy ,
the false phrohet
the philosophy of terrorism
hypothetical faith
saved by the skin of your teeth ,,,, bye for now

 

EnhancedSpirit

High Priestess
Wow, that's going to sting a few people. I'm very sorry that is the viewpoint you have about Christians. It is a very narrow view of Christians, and the tunnel your vision is coming from seems to be pointed at one of the black spots.

No religion is perfect. Every word in every book is up to interpretation of the reader and according to every individual experience. But you should not judge the whole 'christian' community based on your limited experience.
 

c0da

Active Member
Angry Indeed!

Chill out. Believe what you want, just don't verbally assault groups of people because they think differently.
 
EnhancedSpirit said:
Wow, that's going to sting a few people. I'm very sorry that is the viewpoint you have about Christians. It is a very narrow view of Christians, and the tunnel your vision is coming from seems to be pointed at one of the black spots.

No religion is perfect. Every word in every book is up to interpretation of the reader and according to every individual experience. But you should not judge the whole 'christian' community based on your limited experience.
its only your point aview which is limmited with you what you got from knowledge , it doesnt mean its could be the whol truth )(
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
thenight_templer said:
its only your point aview which is limmited with you what you got from knowledge , it doesnt mean its could be the whol truth )(

And your view of the world and your knowledge is more expanded then hers?
 

Buttons*

Glass half Panda'd
thenight_templer said:
its only your point aview which is limmited with you what you got from knowledge , it doesnt mean its could be the whol truth )(
*does little dance*

"but i threw you the obvious....."
 

Karl R

Active Member
thenight_templer said:
i wonder if any christian has ever asked him or herself .if my faith is the right faith ?
Yes. Based on my experience, most christians have asked themselves that at some point or another. Once a christian reaches that point, I don't believe they can continue to grow until they seriously address the point. Avoiding it is counter-productive.

thenight_templer said:
why i am the only and all the others are wrong
After considering that question for years, I no longer consider that all the others are wrong. They see things differently than me, but there's too much truth and wisdom in other religions for them to be completely absent of a divine source.

thenight_templer said:
i don't think there's is such kind of Christian who would think in such away , because simply they don't want to know any thing , nothing about god , nothing about Jesus , nothing about the bible , they are not looking for anythng at all
You seem to be taking that on blind faith. Some of the christians on this forum are very interested in exploring those questions.

thenight_templer said:
how can u believe in something u can not understand ??
I can't understand my immediate family. God's a bit bigger, older, smarter, and well-traveled than any of them (and therefore, more complex).

If I waited to believe in god until I understood, then it would be a bit too late to do anything practical with that belief.

thenight_templer said:
but let me tell I've tried to know if what you call a bible is the book of god or not , I've tried to know if its the word of god or not , but mostly its not
Despite this, Muhammed referred to christians as "people of the book". Perhaps Muhammed understood something about the bible that you do not?
 

ΩRôghênΩ

Disciple of Light
Lets make some things clear:

1.You could say what your saying about any other religion
2.That's a tereotype, and is not based on fact THEREFORE WHAT YOU HAVE SAID IS FALSEHOOD.

3."Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."
"If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you."
"But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. "Do not fear what they fear; do not be frightened."
"Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. 13But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed."

According to what that says, you have just won all the christians on this forum, a leap towards heaven. Thankyou for your charity, and God bless ye. :bounce
 

Maxist

Active Member
I cannot agree on your first point. Chrsitians do not ask for forgivness, they ask for entrance into heaven. To acheive this goal, they must be forgiven, but it is all toward the goal of becoming "saved" so to speak, and going to heaven. However, everything that they do in life is incorporated in all walks of life. Everything that they do in life is going toward the goal of avioding hell. Although all of your other points were fluently spoken, as well as true.
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
Maxist said:
I cannot agree on your first point. Chrsitians do not ask for forgivness, they ask for entrance into heaven. To acheive this goal, they must be forgiven, but it is all toward the goal of becoming "saved" so to speak, and going to heaven. However, everything that they do in life is incorporated in all walks of life. Everything that they do in life is going toward the goal of avioding hell. Although all of your other points were fluently spoken, as well as true.

Not necessarily.
 
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