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The Dome of the Rock - the new Bayt alMaqdess?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tumah, Nov 2, 2016.

  1. Tumah

    Tumah Veteran Member

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    Some news from today:

    At a conference on Thursday, archaeologists Assaf Avraham and Perez Reuven presented an ancient Muslim inscription that refers to the Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount as "Bait al-Maqdess," an Arabicized version of the Hebrew words for the Temple, Beit Hamikdash.

    The inscription was discovered at a recently excavated central mosque in the village of Nuba near Hebron.


    "At the start of the Muslim period, religious rites were held inside the Dome of the Rock compound that imitated the ceremonies conducted in the Jewish Temple," Avraham said at the conference.

    "The people who conducted those ceremonies would purify themselves, change their clothes, burn incense, anoint the rock with oil, place curtains around the Foundation Stone, just like the ornamental curtain that existed in the [Jewish] Temple.

    "In addition, those worshippers would wear ceremonial clothing and use incense burners over the Foundation Stone. These actions teach us that the Muslims saw the Dome of the Rock as the continuance of the Jewish Temple."
    http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=37507
     
  2. Sakeenah

    Sakeenah Well-Known Member

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    As muslims we believe that bayt al muqaddas(House of the holiness) isn't only the al aqsa mosque or the Dome of the Rock but the region highlighted in the picture.


    The practices they performed according to the article isn't something I as a muslim am familiar with.If a religious practice hasn't been mentioned in the Quran or Sunnah it's often rejected and seen as a bid'ah( innovation)
    There are earlier muslims who used to worship graves and saints which has no basis in Islam. So the fact that earlier muslims in Jerusalem used to do these practices doesn't proof that muslims saw the Dome of the Rock as the continuance of the Jewish temple. Masjid-al-Aqsa-768x474.jpg
     
  3. Tumah

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    I think what the article was saying is that choosing the name "bayt alMaqdis" to use specifically in the place where the Jewish "beyt haMiqdash" was, is what indicates that early Muslims viewed themselves as a continuation as Judaism. They didn't give that name to the kaaba, or to the area that masjid alHaram is on. They gave it specifically to the structure they built on top of the area where the Jewish Temple with the same name was. That makes it seem as though they intended to create the new Islamic version of the Temple.

    I understand that. And religions do change over time. But more importantly, from the article it didn't sound as though this was something that a few ignorant Muslims did. From the way its described, it sounds like this is what the Imams were doing. Its an entire religious ritual. If the Imam or shaykh of the masjid thought it was wrong, would they have let this happen?
     
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  4. Limo

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    The objective of the article is to proof the ties of Jews to "Bait al-Maqdess," or "Beit Hamikdash" it doesn't tell that the people who were doing religious rites were Muslims. Vice Versa, I understand that the people who were praying at the place of the Dome were Jews not Muslims.

    It's wrong to use the shared name as an evidence that Islam is some how a continuity of Judaism. Why ?
    The name was used by Arabs even before Islam. Arabs used the name of the city Juraslim and name of the temple "Bait al-Maqdess," Beit Hamikdash to refer to all area that contains the Dome not only the Dome.

    When Muslims opened Juraslim they've asked about the place of "Bait al-Maqdess," Beit Hamikdash people there has taken them to a place used as a dunghill. They cleaned it and built Al-Aqsa in that place. Then Jews came and worship nearby.
    The Dome was built later not as a mosque for worshiping. It was built as memorial.


    The Dome was not built for worshipping in the begining
     
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    The Dome of the Rock (known also as Qubbat al-Sakhrah in Arabic) is an Islamic shrine located on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. This shrine dates to the 7th century, and is the oldest extant Islamic building in the world. The Dome of the Rock is sacred not only to Muslims, but also to Jews and Christians.
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