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The demons are NOT angels.

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by calm, Oct 17, 2019.

  1. calm

    calm Active Member

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    Many think that the demons are former fallen angels, this widespread teaching is wrong.
    The demons are the children of human women who had sexual intercourse with some angels. (Genesis 6:1-4) Before the demons were called "demons", they were called "Nephilim" (giants) on earth. These Nephilim were wiped out by God shortly before the Flood because of their godlessness, but since the giants are not only human beings but also angels by nature, their souls remained on earth instead of going down to the realm of the dead. Since then they have been wandering on earth as evil spirits.
    And the angels who mingled with the human women and thereby begat the demons were imprisoned in hell where they have to stay until the day of the great judgment. (2 Peter 2:4)

    There is only one fallen angel and this one is the devil. He is the leader of the demons.


    Since my thread has been deleted:
    I don't want to missionize anyone with this thread or similar. With this contribution I only want to pass on what the Bible teaches but of course only for those who are interested. If you don't like what I write, then please ignore my posts. Thank you.
     
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    Why are these demon nephalim deserving of punishment because of what their parents did? What of those angels that the NT indicates followed Satan in his rebellion?
     
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    But that seems to be just your interpretation, not what the Bible actually tells. I don’t think there is enough support for your claim, in the Bible.
     
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    The demons were not punished because of their parents but because of their godlessness.
    This rebellion which is mentioned in the book of Revelation is a prophecy which has not yet been fulfilled.
     
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    This is not what the Bible teaches. Sorry.
     
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    How do you know they were godless?

    Did Satan not rebel against god early on?
     
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    Genesis 6:5 ; Genesis 6:13
    And especially in the book of Enoch it becomes clear that the giants were evil creatures.
    The devil has not yet led a rebellion, this widespread teaching is also wrong. The rebellion mentioned in Revelation 12:7 is a prophecy that will come true.
    If we look at the whole context (Revelation 12:1-12), then it becomes clear that this rebellion will only take place after the resurrection of Jesus. Probably just before the beginning of the millennial kingdom.
     
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    Those mention humans, not nephalim. They don't even say godless.

    Based on what evidence?
     
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    Genesis 6:1-4
    6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

    2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

    3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

    4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

    Hmmm. not a single mention of demons or Nephilim. What gives?


    2 Peter 2:4
    4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;​

    Still no mention of demons or Nephilim. Gotta believe you're making all this up.

    Hopefully there's some evidence of this, like an actual Bible verse that says as much.

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    I'm sorry skwim, i replied out of turn. Your post was intended for the op, @calm.
     
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