HonestJoe
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The definition is fine, it’s the word that is vague.The definition is too vague.
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The definition is fine, it’s the word that is vague.The definition is too vague.
'Any belief in the existence of a g-d, a deity.'
Is this the definition
Of theism?
'Any belief in the existence of a g-d, a deity.'
Is this the definition
Of theism?
Deism is a religion that asserts the existence of a creator and makes certain statements about their interaction, or lack of it, with the creation. That sounds like belief in a god to me.My answer is no. Deism is the belief in a deity God, and it is not the same as theism.
In other words, you are assuming that god must be interpreted as Abrahamics do, but that is not implied in the original definition. I remember when a pope remarked that Buddhists were atheists, and got a complaint from the president and prime minister of Ceylon.Deity implies sentient form. There are those theists whose concept of god is formless and without qualities or attributes.
Deism is a religion that asserts the existence of a creator and makes certain statements about their interaction, or lack of it, with the creation. That sounds like belief in a god to me.
In other words, you are assuming that god must be interpreted as Abrahamics do, but that is not implied in the original definition. I remember when a pope remarked that Buddhists were atheists, and got a complaint from the president and prime minister of Ceylon.
The term "vague" means to lack definition; specificity.The definition is fine, it’s the word that is vague.
In other words, you are assuming that god must be interpreted as Abrahamics do, but that is not implied in the original definition.
...there are those theists whose concept of god is formless and without qualities or attributes.
No. You are interchanging the terms 'deity' and 'god.' I already made the distinction in my statement.
I'm not even sure how you came to that conclusion when I said that...
Are you suggesting that Abrahamic interpret God as formless and without qualities or attributes?
I disagree with the "specifically..." bit of that definition. Polytheists and other believers in gods that aren't creator-gods are still theists.
May you tell me more?For some, perhaps. For me, my concept of God is no deity, nor is it a belief.
Sorry, I don't think that it works in practice.'Any belief in the existence of a g-d, a deity.'
Is this the definition
Of theism?
Its pretty good.'Any belief in the existence of a g-d, a deity.'
Is this the definition
Of theism?
May you tell me more?
I wonder if what you call "God" could coincide with what I call "The Sacred".
Have we already considered whether that would be properly described as a deistic stance?My concept of God is nirguna Brahman, which is absolute reality and absolute truth. It is the substrate for all existence. If all existence was a painting, Brahman would be the canvas on which it appears (I credit @sayak83 with that metaphor). It is pure consciousness, unchanging, dispassionate, formless, and without attributes or qualities.
Have we already considered whether that would be properly described as a deistic stance?
Pretty much. My point is that the word "theism" (like many words, especially in the field of philosophy) has significantly different definitions depending on the context and perception of the speaker. This is a perfectly reasonable definition but it can't be said to be the definition.The term "vague" means to lack definition; specificity.
It can if it's in the right context.Pretty much. My point is that the word "theism" (like many words, especially in the field of philosophy) has significantly different definitions depending on the context and perception of the speaker. This is a perfectly reasonable definition but it can't be said to be the definition.