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the definition of "fundementalism" and the OT

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Desert Snake, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. Desert Snake

    Desert Snake Veteran Member

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    Following the OT laws about not eating pork, or not shaving, or circumcision, or not eating crustaceans, or keeping the Sabbath, aren't these all fundamentalist concepts?
    If not, how are people defining "fundamentalism"?
     
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    I define Christian fundamentalism as believing the Bible to be literally true, inspired by the deity, and those who don't get 'saved' will go to hell. A truly unpleasant concept!
     
  3. Desert Snake

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    That's most Christian churches doctrine, AFAIK.
     
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    Rakhel Well-Known Member

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    Because people are defining the word as it currently stands. Within Judaism, fundamentalism, now, is the act of taking the basics to the extreme. such as:
    men walking on one side of the street while women walk on the other;
    since men can be turned on by the undergarments of a woman, a woman must wear a veil that covers her from head to foot so as not to show even the pinkie finger, lest a man get sexually aroused(doesn't make sense to me either);
    sending children to "councilors" because they question Torah or G-d or the Rebbe's edicts;
    Rebbe's making silly edicts about what one can read, listen to, or watch;
    throwing stones at others that don't believe in Torah the same way you do;
    setting people on fire because they refuse to attend your synagogue or they disagree with your rebbe.
     
  5. Desert Snake

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    Considering the complete veil, isn't that a completely new invention for Orthodox Judaism? Is it from a medieval sect or something?
     
  6. ForeverFaithful

    ForeverFaithful Son Worshiper

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    No because the Bible also includes the Council of Jerusalem wherein these where abolished, read the whole Bible.

    Fundamentalism in Christianity began in the early 1900s when a series of short essaies entitled the Fundamentals were published, aherrence to their (non-traditional) doctrines are what makes one a fundamentalist

    The Fundamentals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    edit; Note its almost exclusively a Protestant phenomenon and is often coupled with anti-Catholicism
     
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  7. Desert Snake

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    However, there wouldn't be anything prohibiting following OT laws, I presume.
    I've asked the question in other threads, does the NT directly tell us not to follow the laws of the OT?
     
  8. Rakhel

    Rakhel Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it's relatively new and no, it's not some medieval sect. A sect but not medieval.
    Right now, the farthest that Orthodox Judaism is going as far as modesty is concerned is long sleeve shirts, armour-all(non-see through) stockings, long skirts and wigs.
     
  9. Desert Snake

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    Gotcha. I thought I may have been using the wrong term.
     
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    Rakhel Well-Known Member

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    Yes and no. Because while we have the Orthodox Jews who adhere to the 613 laws as strictly as they can, we also have Ultra-Orthodox Jews who take things to a new level. They can be pretty extreme in their thinking by putting more restrictions on an already strict law. However, some of them are not even as restrictive as some of our most zealous members. Hence, the full veils, or as some of them are called, burkas.
     
  11. Desert Snake

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    O.k. thanks, yes I've never read historical anecdotes about the burkha for Jews, I was surprised to find out that some were doing this.
     
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