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Featured The concept of superstition

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Remté, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. Remté

    Remté Active Member

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    In Islam all superstitions are strictly forbitten.

    But it is very difficult for the human mind to be absolutely devoid of superstitions.

    Looked from the point of view of an atheist, even atheist who swears there is no God has superstitions on some level.

    Can one draw a clear line between faith in God and superstition?

    Does your religion condemn superstitions? Feel free to quote scriptures.
     
  2. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    No.

    From my perspective, most belief in God is superstition.
     
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    "Looked from the point of view of an atheist, even atheist who swears there is no God has superstitions on some level."

    Isn't "there is no God" also a superstition, please?

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  4. Vinayaka

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    There is no clear line regarding superstition. Sometimes there is an inner meaning that isn't all that apparent. So my problem is just who gets to define what is or isn't a superstition. For example, many cultures remove shoes to enter a house of worship. Is that a superstition?

    I would be against any custom that is obviously harmful, like genital mutilation.
     
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    My thoughts on superstition are summed up in the following comic:

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  6. Remté

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    Not with the general definition of it;

    "a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition 2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary
    " source: Merriam-Webster
     
  7. Remté

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    No. That's just respect.
     
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    How is it superstition?
     
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    Vinayaka said:
    There is no clear line regarding superstition. Sometimes there is an inner meaning that isn't all that apparent. So my problem is just who gets to define what is or isn't a superstition. For example, many cultures remove shoes to enter a house of worship. Is that a superstition?
    I believe this measure was adopted so that the worship place does not become dirty.

    Regards
     
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    If one or a few people do something, it is a superstition. If many people do it, it is a religious ritual.

    Belief in a deity is a type of superstition similar in many ways to belief in gnomes or unicorns. There is just as much evidence for them all as far as I can see.
     
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  11. Vinayaka

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    I agree. It was just an example. But I think if we all put our minds together, we could list at least 100 customs or beliefs religious or otherwise that at least some people would label superstitious. For me personally, I leave it up to the individuals themselves to determine what is or isn't superstitious. In other words, although I'm personally a strong theist, if someone else wants to believe that the belief in God is a silly superstition, them I leave it at that.

    I simply can't see people all agreeing.

    In Hinduism we use stone or metal statues, believing that they can hold or move certain divine energies in the same way copper conducts electricity. For us, it's no superstition. But for others, it's not only superstitious, but also evil ... so much so that they have destroyed thousands of such statues, based on their belief.
     
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    How? What does 'superstition' mean to you that this would make sense to you?
     
  13. Remté

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    Why a ritual? A superstition doesn't need to show in a ritual.
     
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    Just one example: many superstitions show themselves as ritualistic behavior. Not all, I agree.
     
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    paarsurrey said:
    "Looked from the point of view of an atheist, even atheist who swears there is no Godhas superstitions on some level."

    Isn't "there is no God" also a superstition, please?
    The Atheism people have no positive facts to prove that "there is no God".
    Do they, please?
    Regards
     
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    I love the arrogance of atheists.....

    It is almost you denying my experiences as if what I experience even if I'm alert and oriented is somehow still a delusion. So what I want to know that since I'm neither on drugs, with a college background strong sense of the mind I want you to prove that my experience of God is deluded. I want to know what I experienced as a small child metaphysically was delusional and synonymous with Santa Claus?
     
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    But the burden of proof is on the one making the positive existence statement. Is there any positive fact showing there is a God? If not then why believe in one?
     
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    First of all, I do NOT deny your experience. I *do* deny that you have properly interpreted that experience. The depth and perceived 'meaningfulness' of an experience does NOT mean your interpretation of it is valid. Many people have quite conflicting religious experiences. They cannot all be correct if they are to relate to something outside of the minds of those who experience them. I have also had 'religious experiences', but I acknowledge that they were not reliable sources of information.
     
  19. Remté

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    Why?
     
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    superstition - Excessively credulous belief in and reverence for the supernatural.

    That seem to cover belief in god(s) as far as I can see...
     
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