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so not having allegiance to him is a sin? Is that what you're saying?God demands all allegiance or none.
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so not having allegiance to him is a sin? Is that what you're saying?God demands all allegiance or none.
Does't even nature have sin in it?To me sin is the idea that something is an abomination in the eyes of the Divine. Its something that is not only wrong but is in direct rebellion of God...since I worship nature and nothing goes against nature everything is nature sin is irrelevant to me. You dont go to hell for it as I dont believe in the concept. If you do something that is against your moral code you can always change your actions. You can always improve on yourself as we are always learning.Sure some things are harmful but you can always learn improve and better yourself.
Doesn't Christianity also teach that sin can be eradicated? Like other religions?If you have any moral standard by which you measure human acts you have by extension a concept of sin. It seems to me what people object to is not the concept of sin as few people deny all moral standards, but that God will punish sin ultimately. And every major religious tradition teaches that sin is punished. Christianity differs from Buddhism and Hinduism in that it insists that the eventual consequences of sin are eternal rather than temporary.
It teaches that you can repent of sin and thus avoid Hell. Although Catholicism maintains that even forgiven sins still need to be atoned for by a corresponding level of suffering either in this life or in Purgatory.Doesn't Christianity also teach that sin can be eradicated? Like other religions?
depends on your concept of sin...Does't even nature have sin in it?
this part... I don't believe the gods actually have a set of rules that they're worried about humans breaking.To have the concept of sin in a Pagan belief system, then, one must assume that (a) the Pagan gods have a set of unified inviolable laws and that (b) they actually care if we break those laws. However, this is not typically the case, because frequently in Pagan religion, the duty of mortals is not to blindly follow the laws of the gods. Instead, our job is to honor the gods while accepting responsibility for our own actions.
Interesting...depends on your concept of sin...
Not in my opinion no. Nature just is. Its not good or evil it just is. Seeing things as sinful implies you see things that aren't only evil or wrong as bad but also an affront against God...I dont think the gods care if you make mistakes as long as you work on them altho most gods dont care about people enough to care about that either.
Thank you... will check it out@KenS Here is a link on paganism and sin: Do Pagans Believe in the Concept of Sin?
this part... I don't believe the gods actually have a set of rules that they're worried about humans breaking.
Just cuz something is wrong doesn't mean it is sinful...in regards to humans we have social rules and reasoning that makes eating your offspring...as a result eating your own offspring would be wrong because of the fact it hurts other humans and breaks social rules humans have created in order to order and peace...not because it breaks divine lawBut if eating your own offspring in nature isn't sin or wrong and "just is", wouldn't that precipitate the thought that it is OK for humans to do it too?
Yes, its a simple truth.so not having allegiance to him is a sin? Is that what you're saying?
Just cuz something is wrong doesn't mean it is sinful...in regards to humans we have social rules and reasoning that makes eating your offspring...as a result eating your own offspring would be wrong because of the fact it hurts other humans and breaks social rules humans have created in order to order and peace...not because it breaks divine law
Sin is going against the rules and laws of a deity or deities make for you. Wrong is breaking the moral code you make for yourself or society makes.What is the difference between wrong and sin? Not quite understanding how you differentiate it.
Thanks... definitions help so that we can be on the same pageSin is going against the rules and laws of a deity or deities make for you. Wrong is breaking the moral code you make for yourself or society makes.
Note: not a debate thread..just me trying to understand.
I honestly dont understand why some people believe in or want to believe in the concept of sin. When I was a christian I believed that anyone who did not repent their sin and turn their life over to Christ would go to hell...now that I am no longer a christian it seems like a good way to have a lot of guilt and to keep someone in Christianity. I know Christianity is not the only religion with the concept of sin but I dont know how other religions view it...So if you believe in sin please explain why...I am not going to try to change your mind I am just asking to try and understand.
Note: not a debate thread..just me trying to understand.
I honestly dont understand why some people believe in or want to believe in the concept of sin. When I was a christian I believed that anyone who did not repent their sin and turn their life over to Christ would go to hell...now that I am no longer a christian it seems like a good way to have a lot of guilt and to keep someone in Christianity. I know Christianity is not the only religion with the concept of sin but I dont know how other religions view it...So if you believe in sin please explain why...I am not going to try to change your mind I am just asking to try and understand.
Note: not a debate thread..just me trying to understand.
I honestly dont understand why some people believe in or want to believe in the concept of sin. When I was a christian I believed that anyone who did not repent their sin and turn their life over to Christ would go to hell...now that I am no longer a christian it seems like a good way to have a lot of guilt and to keep someone in Christianity. I know Christianity is not the only religion with the concept of sin but I dont know how other religions view it...So if you believe in sin please explain why...I am not going to try to change your mind I am just asking to try and understand.
Christians I believe have not really thought through how we were created - in the image of God, so have adopted a stance in contradiction to what the Bible says.
Ego.Interesting...
Yes... it is always good to learn from our mistakes.
But if eating your own offspring in nature isn't sin or wrong and "just is", wouldn't that precipitate the thought that it is OK for humans to do it too?
if not... why is OK in nature (not an aberration of nature) but not Ok for humans?