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The Clueless About Politics Thread

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If given again the choice to support someone you don't "support" or support someone whom you do (even though they will likely lose) would you again give your support to the person you ashamed of supporting?
Shame?
That is for the weak.

We who play board games pick the best move we see,
even if it's imperfect. It would be folly to select a better
move which has the singular failing of unavailability.
(That was a reference to better 3rd party candidates.)

Some people (typically lefties) are blind to the idea that
one can vote for a candidate one doesn't support.
Even analogies fail to evince the concept.
Suppose one is forced to choose:
Have a good finger or toe amputated.
If one picks a toe, is one a supporter
of amputating perfectly good toes?
A practical person picks the lesser
of 2 evils in order to minimize it.
This is not to support evil.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Indeed not-- we did not buy into the many lies as spread by tЯump and Slanders' people.
Sadly, all her detractors did believe the lies... your list of lies in your previous posts proves my point beautifully.
Alas, you consider only your own perspective.
Once one is certain one has The Truth, all other
views are therefore wrong, & not worth one's
consideration. I suspect this lies behind her loss.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
From my own side, one of the things that caused Hillary Clinton to lose the election was her "deplorables" crack. It has to rank as one of the stupidest things in American election history if not the stupidest.

That may have been part of it, although there was more to her defeat than just that.

I think the major part of it (which largely went unaddressed at the time) was that she was also stuck with all of Bill Clinton's political baggage as well.

Plus, I think people looked cynically at the whole idea that it was "Hillary's turn," along with perceptions that the nomination was totally rigged in her favor.

Her whole campaign was built upon the gimmick of being the first female president, which is a false and disingenuous reason for voting for someone. Other than that, she had absolutely nothing to offer the people except for more of the same BS which has brought about decline and despair these past decades.

Even Trump's nomination was, more or less, a "gimme" for Hillary. Any other Democratic candidate would have trounced Trump, and any other Republican would have trounced Hillary.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Much as I dont like the guy, I dont see him as racist.

Taking into account, of course, that it is always in degrees,
you and me and the man behind the tree are all racist; it is the human condition.

The Trump-as-racist thing, though, to me is just
TDS. Your way of writing trump has a sort of
TDS look to it.

(did you know btw that BTU stands for British
Thermal Unit) :D

If all the self-identified white supremacy racist political action groups in the USA are universally for tЯump? And hang on every word he spews?

If the last several mass shooters bragged on being inspired by tЯump's words?

If tЯump himself always refers to people of color in racist terms?

I think it's safe to conclude tЯump is racist.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Alas, you consider only your own perspective.
Once one is certain one has The Truth, all other
views are therefore wrong, & not worth one's
consideration. I suspect this lies behind her loss.

Nope. I go by as unbiased sources as I can-- and universally? None of those report the lies you told earlier, regarding Clinton.

100% of the time, these stories come from Faux Noise and even worse Lying For the GOP "news".

Whereas even Faux Noise has finally had to admit that tЯump's words are racism of the worst sort....

But. The Ostrich Defense that most tЯump supports seem to use is in full regalia.... pretend that tЯump isn't well established as a child predator. Even in spite of his own words condemning him in the acts... even in spite of multiple lawsuits against him for such.

It mystifies me how people simply ignore these facts, because they'd rather not admit they support a monster...
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Today's offering.....
State. Sen. Sandoval Apologizes For Mock Trump Assassination Photos At Fundraiser
CHICAGO (CBS) — An Illinois state senator apologized Sunday night after controversial photos surfaced from a local fundraiser.

The photos, posted online on Friday night, show someone in a mask depicting President Donald Trump, wearing traditional Mexican clothes, and taking part in a mock assassination.

Another photo shows state Sen. Martin Sanodval (D-Chicago) smiling for a picture at the fundraiser.

Personally I don't care.

All I expect is for for the same standards to be applied equally. But both the Dems and Repubs have double standards.

Show a video of Trump being assassinated.

GoP = Outrage

Dems = But my Freedom of Speech!

Show a video of Hillary or Obama being assassinated.

Dems = Outrage

GoP = But my Freedom of Speech!

I'm fine with either conclusion. Showing a political figure being axed can be viewed as expressing a political opinion. But at the same time it is exhibiting violence and potentially inciting violence.

So draw a firm line whichever it may be. Then stick to it and stop being hypcorites!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Nope. I go by as unbiased sources as I can-- and universally? None of those report the lies you told earlier, regarding Clinton.
And there we have it....if anyone disagrees with "The Truth"
then they must be lying. This is the picture of fanaticism.

I voted for Trump, but I also understand voting for Hillary.
Alas, TDS makes it impossible for those afflicted to even
consider the other perspective.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Personally I don't care.

All I expect is for for the same standards to be applied equally. But both the Dems and Repubs have double standards.

Show a video of Trump being assassinated.

GoP = Outrage

Dems = But my Freedom of Speech!

Show a video of Hillary or Obama being assassinated.

Dems = Outrage

GoP = But my Freedom of Speech!

I'm fine with either conclusion. Showing a political figure being axed can be viewed as expressing a political opinion. But at the same time it is exhibiting violence and potentially inciting violence.

So draw a firm line whichever it may be. Then stick to it and stop being hypcorites!
Them's many words to express disinterest.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sad. Your fanatical support of a self-admitted rapist is quite sad.
I don't even support him.
Is it even possible for Hillary fans to recognize
what voting for the lesser of 2 evils means?
Btw, I didn't want to make anyone sad or weepy.
Est tut mir leid that you feel that way.
 
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Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
Oh, for all you pro & anti Trumpers feel free to go
nuts with examples from the other side of the aisle.
I want this to be a fair & balanced donnybrook.
I misread the title and thought this thread was about Pontiacs.

Just disregard this post.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't even support him.
Is it even possible for Hillary fans to recognize
what voting for the lesser of 2 evils means?
Btw, I didn't want to make anyone said.
Est tut mir leid that you feel that way.
I am uncertain it was the lesser of two evils, but just different evils.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I misread the title and thought this thread was about Pontiacs.
It isn't?
Aw dang....I meant "Pontiacs".
(It might as well be, since only the first couple posts were on topic.)
Here he is....
chief-pontiac.jpg


I once worked in Pontiac MI for GM Truck & Bus.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Them's many words to express disinterest.

Well obviously I'm not disinterested.

Personally I think it falls under freedom of speech.

The only time I have issue with something like this when the hypocrisy is in full effect.

I wonder what would happen if Trump posted a video of AoC being assasinated.

Do you think it would get more or less attention than the article in your OP?

It's a rhetorical question.

We all know the answer.

A literal effin meltdown like no other ever seen before. Far worse than the initial 2016 election day meltdown.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
It isn't?
Aw dang....I meant "Pontiacs".
(It might as well be, since only the first couple posts were on topic.)
Here he is....
chief-pontiac.jpg


I once worked in Pontiac MI for GM Truck & Bus.
I have been a passenger in Pontiac Grand Prix's, Trans Am's, GTO's and the occasional LeMans. I have driven a few Firebird's and a Can Am too. One of my favorite classic cars is a 1957 Pontiac Star Chief wagon. I am sure that none of this is politically correct, but I do not support the doctrine of enforced political correctness.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
Well obviously I'm not disinterested.

Personally I think it falls under freedom of speech.

The only time I have issue with something like this when the hypocrisy is in full effect.

I wonder what would happen if Trump posted a video of AoC being assasinated.

Do you think it would get more or less attention than the article in your OP?

It's a rhetorical question.

We all know the answer.

A literal effin meltdown like no other ever seen before. Far worse than the initial 2016 election day meltdown.
I have no interest in your disinterest, but I am interested in your claims of a lack of disinterest. If that is of any interest?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Personally I think it falls under freedom of speech.
This thread is about those who say things which show cluelessness
about how others will react in the current political climate. Well,
the thread started off about that. It's about whatever you want now.
What else disinterests you?

Anyway, I don't challenge their right to such expression.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I have been a passenger in Pontiac Grand Prix's, Trans Am's, GTO's and the occasional LeMans. I have driven a few Firebird's and a Can Am too. One of my favorite classic cars is a 1957 Pontiac Star Chief wagon. I am sure that none of this is politically correct, but I do not support the doctrine of enforced political correctness.
We currently have a Pontiac Vibe.
 
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