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The Clueless About Politics Thread

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Revoltingest, Aug 19, 2019.

  1. Revoltingest

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    State. Sen. Sandoval Apologizes For Mock Trump Assassination Photos At Fundraiser
    CHICAGO (CBS) — An Illinois state senator apologized Sunday night after controversial photos surfaced from a local fundraiser.

    The photos, posted online on Friday night, show someone in a mask depicting President Donald Trump, wearing traditional Mexican clothes, and taking part in a mock assassination.

    Another photo shows state Sen. Martin Sanodval (D-Chicago) smiling for a picture at the fundraiser.
     
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  2. Revoltingest

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    Oh, for all you pro & anti Trumpers feel free to go
    nuts with examples from the other side of the aisle.
    I want this to be a fair & balanced donnybrook.
     
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  3. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    From my own side, one of the things that caused Hillary Clinton to lose the election was her "deplorables" crack. It has to rank as one of the stupidest things in American election history if not the stupidest.
     
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    The sum of the total of clueless politicians.
     
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    Can we just agree on it being "fair for the unbalanced"?
     
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    Yeah, it's hard to win someone over to your side if you let them know that you think of them that way.
     
  7. Revoltingest

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    If you insist.
     
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    She's probably still oblivious to the fact she made their day by acknowledging with one stone that, yes, they are hated with a hint of fear behind it, and that they got acknowledged with a name. She ventured into the territory of Trump's own game of nuclear mudslinging and made a terminal mistake.
    Biden, from what I'm reading, is making the mistake of venturing into that game he will lose.
     
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    NO! Not in this day of super easy to access and massively widely available information! :p
     
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  10. David1967

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    Super easy to access "custom made" information too. Examples; FOX, MSN, CNN, etc.:D Wait, you said "No!" Does that mean I'm supposed to argue with you?:p
     
  11. Bob the Unbeliever

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    Actually? I don't think that was it-- I think she was way too soft on tЯumpers. If she'd have been more funny, less dry, more forthright against the PURE EVIL that is tЯump's racism?

    She might have overcome the Russian Bot Attack.

    I don't think she went far enough. Old Colonel Slanders' BoB army didn't help either...
     
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    Do you mean that she should've doubled down on what so many believe was a mistake?
     
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    Clinton was never going to win over the Racists-- who all, without a single exception-- voted tЯump.

    Those who still support tЯump after all his racist remarks? Don't care he's a serial rapist, don't care he's a serial abuser of women, don't care he's a terrible businessman, don't care he's a serial adulterer, don't care he's a thief.

    They love him for his overt racism.
     
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    I don't think the "Deplorables" remark hurt
    her. It just felt wrong to some of her fans.
     
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    Please forgive us racists, some of whom faced a dilemma...
    Vote for the orange loose cannon, the corrupt incompetent
    sexist, or a 3rd party candidate guaranteed to lose.
     
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    If one is going to wrestle with a pig, one better be willing to get down, dirty and covered with mud.

    Clinton tried to take the high road, with a serial misogynist who would not recognize the "high road" if it was stapled to his oversized backside.

    You cannot take the "high road" if it never was there to begin with.

    Yes... she should have doubled down and eviscerated the tЯump, starting with his many divorces, his many affairs, his many rapes, his many bankruptcies, his many failures to pay is debts, etc, etc, etc.

    Clinton, by being too soft, played into his hands.
     
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    Or? Vote for Clinton-- the only one who was none of those...
     
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  18. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    Rubbish...the corrupt incompetent sexist hasn't won the nomination. And with any luck at all, Elizabeth Warren will. Then you might have a real choice on your hands.
     
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    Her failures went beyond arguably being too soft.
    - She had little personal appeal.
    - She lacked campaign experience, having gotten where she was by
    Bill's coattails, insider shepherding, & a DNC machine which propped
    up her nomination. She wasn't prepared for a knock down drag out
    fight for a major office.
    - She had baggage, eg, opposition to gay marriage, Benghazi, Clinton
    foundation corruption, stock trading mischief.
    - Even when trying to pay rough, her "Deplorables" insult backfired.

    She just got beaten by someone more able to take advantage of the
    political climate. She should've beaten him handily, but the fact that
    she couldn't speaks to the problems I listed.
     
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    That post illustrates how her fans were so unprepared for the
    possibility of her loss. They simply didn't see her as non-fans did.
     
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