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The Capacity for Embarassment.

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Evangelicalhumanist, Feb 28, 2021.

  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    No pretending.
    There is much variety over time in the horrors of "normal".
     
  2. tytlyf

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    I watched it. Each of the 3 days. Knowledge is power. People on the right wouldn't bother with any Democrat convention. They'll wait for the re-cap from their intellectual leaders on what/how to think about it. (always a negative narrative by design)
     
  3. Revoltingest

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    So the word "cranky" means correcting false claim
    of an informal logical fallacy? I recommend sticking
    to dictionary definitions....not personal ones.
    Are you getting cranky at me?
    Liberals...so many must learn to disagree without rancor.
     
  4. icehorse

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    denial, not pretty to witness.

    Nah, I'm not getting cranky. But I wish you'd stop gumming up good discussions with your weak, distracting, false equivalencies :(
     
  5. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein Caritas Christi Urget Nos
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    I didn't watch the Trump speech live as I don't have cable and none of the main channels (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX) here covered it. I guess it's on YouTube?
     
  6. Revoltingest

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    I wish you'd quit the false false equivalency fallacies.
    But we don't get our wishes granted.
    So toughen up, learn to accept disagreements, & stick to issues.
     
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    Saint Frankenstein Caritas Christi Urget Nos
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    Americans are too worried about how to pay their bills to be embarrassed over the antics of their rulers.
     
  8. Revoltingest

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    I see no point in being embarrassed by politicians.
    They don't reflect upon you or me.
     
  9. icehorse

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    Happy to do that, I'd ask you to stick to honest arguments.
     
  10. Revoltingest

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    I ask the same of you.
    Additionally, stop making disagreements personal.
     
  11. icehorse

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    Which of my posts contained false equivalences?

    I have criticized only the quality of your arguments, that's not personal.
     
  12. Revoltingest

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    I don't keep track.
    I'm concerned with bogus claims of false equivalency.
    If you disagree with something, feel free to make your case.
    But merely lobbing the label of an informal logical fallacy,
    particularly when wielded incorrectly, is not discussion.
    When you make your argument about another poster's
    questionable honesty (however artful your language)
    it's personal.
    I don't question yours.
    You should reciprocate.
     
  13. icehorse

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    It's not on the rest of us to clean up your sloppy posts.

    The thing is, you're clearly a smart guy. So when you make a misleading post, it's hard to imagine that that post was done in good faith.
     
  14. Revoltingest

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    You really don't see how such snark isn't personal?
    I'd prefer that you stick to issues.
    Perhaps you assume that you have The Gospel Truth,
    & that no intelligent person could honestly disagree.
    This would be an error.

    A reminder about how to handle disagreement....
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    When YOU create a post that uses a fallacy, do you think it's up to the rest of us to correct it for you? When YOU create a post that uses a fallacy, YOU'RE the one who is not really sticking to the issue. These fallacy posts of your tend to obfuscate and distract from the OP. I think YOU should do better at sticking to the issues.

    And... there's a strawman :)
     
  16. Revoltingest

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  17. icehorse

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    Yes @Revoltingest , ironic when viewed from the narrowest of perspectives.

    You have some clout here dude. I'm asking you to step up, notice a habit you sometimes fall into, and make a slight course correction. It would appear from this exchange, that you think you've made 180,000 fallacy free posts?

    What you might see - with a bit of introspection - is that your fallacy posts are subtly undermining the very mission statement you just refreshed us with.
     
  18. Revoltingest

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    Thou might first remove the plank from thine own eye.
    Allow that others may disagree & be honest about it.
    If unable, I suggest putting me on <ignore>.
    There'd be less derailment.
     
  19. icehorse

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    When someone suggests that I made a fallacy argument, I take a look at my post to see if they are correct, and sometimes they are. I do not deny that I slip up sometimes, so I'm not sure what your "plank" comment is referring to?

    OTOH, you seem completely unwilling to entertain the idea that you might have ever erred.

    As for the "ignore" suggestion, I'm trying to do a public service here, for everyone that reads your posts. :)
     
  20. Revoltingest

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    Make a cromulent argument, & we'll see.
    But so far, I've seen naught.
    It began with post #38, which was devoid of support for the claim made.
    Try to be interesting.
     
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