THE BLASPHEMOUS AND FALSE BIBLESEARCHERS: DEBATING

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THE BLASPHEMOUS AND FALSE BIBLESEARCHERS: DEBATING
The Ancestors of Jesus in First and Second Century Judea BCE
By Robert Mock M.D.
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December 2007
Book One
Chapter Two
This young maiden, Miriam, was a child of sorrow. Her father, Heli, a Davidic and Hasmonean prince, called Alexander helios III”, was apparently executed, in the world where many Davidian aspirants, as the “young lions of Judah”, were eliminated by the cruel and tyrannical King Herod the Great., Etc.

I Googled that up for those who wish to know from where, other than the bible, can the biological grandfather of Jesus be sourced. The families of the daughters of Yehoshua III, were very important families in Israel and should not be seen as merely peasant type people. According to Jewish traditions, the daughters of Yehoshua III, the great grandfather of Jesus were initially placed in the protective custody of the Davidian Zealots of Galilee, who were plotting to overthrow the throne of Herod.

The great grandfather of the biblical Jesus was Yehoshua/Jesus III, who was the high priest in Jerusalem from 36 to 23 BC. The sonless Yehoshua, had three daughter, Joanna, Elizabeth and Anna/Hanna. Knowing that his Zadokian lineage would become extinct unless his daughters were placed with future husbands according to the Torah, Yehoshua married off his daughters as child brides.
Hanna/Anna, as a young child, was betrothed to Alexander Helios (Heli) of the tribe of Levi, being a descendant of Nathan the priest who was the biological son of Bathsheba and Uriah the Hittite, who became a member of the tribe of Levi by his marriage to Bathsheba the daughter of Ammiel, the son of Oded-edom, who was a descendant of Moses from the house of Levi.

But still, Heli and his descendants were heir to the throne of David, through Naria the stepson of King Jeconiah. Heli, who died in 13 BC, by order of Herod the Great, had previously sired a son, who we know by the name “Joseph the Levite from Cyprus,” and Heli was to later sire the child Mary to Hanna the daughter of the high priest Yehoshua III.



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BIBLESEARCH-BLASPHEMOUS FAKE
http://www.biblesearchers.com/
Book One

The Ancestors of Jesus in First and Second Century Judea BCE



Go to Chapter One –

“The Royal Davidian, Maccabee, and Levitical Ancestors of Jesus (Yehoshua)”

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[Brickjectivity]

@sooda , this is a little confusing the way it is in the post. Most of it should go into quotations, and no more than 2 paragraphs from that site should be reproduced here. It has to do with legal questions about attributions and copyrights etc. From rule 7:

When quoting material external to RF, even if it is your own, always provide a citation and limit your quotation to a paragraph or two rather than quoting the entire content

 

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Later life
The fate of Alexander Helios is unknown. Plutarch, Cassius Dio and Suetonius state that Octavian killed Antony's son Marcus Antonius Antyllus and Cleopatra's son with Julius Caesar, Caesarion.

The only further mention of Alexander Helios and Ptolemy Philadelphus comes from Cassius Dio, who states that when their sister Cleopatra Selene II married King Juba II, Octavian (then named Augustus) spared the lives of Alexander Helios and Ptolemy Philadelphus as a favor to the couple.

After Helios arrived in Rome, he disappears from historical records, implying that he died before reaching maturity.

Alexander Helios - Wikipedia

 

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@Tumah @Brickjectivity @The Anointed

Eventually war broke out between Octavian (now known as Augustus) and the Mark Anthony/Cleopatra forces. Caesarion was hidden by his mother in a small port town but was discovered by Augustus’ men.

He was captured and executed. Caesarion was not only the last of the Greek line of pharaohs, but the last Pharaoh of Egypt.

He was 17 when he died. Mark Anthony and Cleopatra both also died that same year. Anthony committed suicide by stabbing himself, thinking that Cleopatra was already dead; and she committed suicide when she witnessed Anthony’s final moments.

It was kind of like an ancient Romeo and Juliet. Mark Anthony was 53, Cleopatra was 39.

All three children of the couple were spared their lives.

The twins were 10 years old, little Ptolemy Philadelphus was six.

They were taken to Rome to live under the care of Mark Anthony’s Roman wife, Octavia Minor, who was now also a widow.


On Augustus’ orders, the daughter, Cleopatra Selene II, was later given in an arranged marriage to Juba, the Berber King of Mauretania (Algeria and Tunisia).

She lived to the age of 34. Her brothers never reached adulthood; Alexander Helios died at 15 and Ptolemy Philadelphus lived only to the age of seven.

The Unfolding Journey: Cleopatra's Children

 

[Zita]

And your point is?

 

[sooda]

And your point is?

Don't you have somewhere else to be?

 

[Zita]

I meant no harm I really wanted to know what your point is?, but with your comment you already have answered, you yourself don't know.

 

[sooda]

I meant no harm I really wanted to know what your point is?, but with your comment you already have answered, you yourself don't know.

The claim has been made repeatedly that Mary is the daughter of Cleopatra's son Alexander Heli.

 

[Zita]

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