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Featured The biogeographic evidence for evolution

Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by Hubert Farnsworth, Sep 7, 2019.

  1. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    He has a history of running from errors. They all do.
     
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    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    Of course you have. Name or link to 3 of them. And then EXPLAIN why you think these papers have merit.
     
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  3. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Funny thing is, i have never seen such action taught in the bible, to me it reads as teaching a complely opposite mindset
     
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    BilliardsBall Well-Known Member

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    And after, you will repent and convert? (Not that I'm proselytizing).
     
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    TagliatelliMonster Well-Known Member

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    Let's first see those papers before asking anyone to commit to anything.
     
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    Because they evolved and adapted.
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    You kidding!? Evolving is a God given created trait. Nothing to do with the TOE, and man descending from animals.
     
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    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    It does show the effectiveness of creationist tactics to derail any discussion that contradicts their beliefs.
     
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    I would be interested in seeing them too. Since the existence of them was mentioned to imply that they were the truth and an explanation for the evidence that supersedes biogeographic explanations it would be interesting to know of them.

    They were offered rather glibly and in typical creationist fashion with a follow up that did not meet the request to present some, so I do not expect much.
     
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    Evos have a history of making up errors. They all do.
     
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    The following paper is on the biogeography of Diptera, but provides an overview of biogeographical terminology and techniques that may be useful to those interested in more than meaningless sound bytes and spouting nonsense.

    Cranston, Peter. 2005. Biogeographic patterns in the evolution of Diptera. In: Pp. 274-311. The evolutionary biology of flies. Yeates, David K. & Brian M. Wiegmann, eds. Columbia University Press.

    A pdf of the paper can be found here http://entomology.ucdavis.edu/files/152200.pdf
     
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    gnostic The Lost One

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    Polymath257 was responding to what I have highlighted in red.

    By the context of what you have written, your two lines of questions, you are the one who seem to have made assumption that “Caucasians” and “dark-skinned people” as if they were of different species.

    They are not of different species.
     
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    gnostic The Lost One

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    Yeah, I thought you were talking about this guy.
     
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    No - after which I will I will see whether or not you actually have read what you claim to have; whether or not these papers have merit; whether or not you understand them well enough to discuss them.

    After your own-goal re: Darwin=Hitler, I do so look forward to your attempted defense of your claims.
     
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    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    No need to make up the errors creationsits make. They are easily documentable. I refer you to the sad tale of the "Eve gene" for one example of a recent whopper of a doozy.
     
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    Please post here where I wrote "Darwin is Hitler", I wrote rather that Hitler felt led by Darwin and Social Darwinism to kill/murder.
     
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    "Hitler and Stalin did what they did as Darwinists."

    Hitler and Darwin: http://home.uchicago.edu/~rjr6/articles/Was Hitler a Darwinian.pdf and
    From Darwin to Hitler Quotes by Richard Weikart


    So, as a language expert, surely you understand that I never indicated that you specifically wrote "Darwin=Hitler", and surely you can understand the implication of Darwin=Hitler?

    Not that it matters - this sad assertion:

    "...Hitler felt led by Darwin and Social Darwinism to kill/murder"

    is utter BS dreamed up by right-wing radical Weikart.

    But way to go in your attempt to detract from your utter failure to prop up even THAT dopey claim!

    Recall, YOU, for reasons that do not shine favorably upon your 'scholarship', tried to support your thesis with a paper that concluded:

    "In order to sustain the thesis that Hitler was a Darwinian one would have to ignore all the explicit statements of Hitler rejecting any theory like Darwin’s and draw fanciful implications from vague words, errant phrases, and ambiguous sentences,neglecting altogether more straight -forward, contextual interpretations of such utterances. Only the ideologically blinded would still try to sustain the thesis in the face of the contrary, manifest evidence."

    But no, you keep making your false claims in some lame attempt to prop up your religio-political-social views...
     
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    Jose Fly Fisker of men

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    I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”--Adolph Hitler, 1936
     
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    Trying to trace back modern genetics to Eve won't work. You blame creos for making the same mistake science does in trying to do so?
     
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    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    Hitler got the idea to prosecute and kill Jews from M. Luther. The father of the reformation. Hardly a Darwinist. Social or not.

    Just one of the many instances of the documented criminal history of Christianity in Europe.

    Ciao

    - viole
     
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    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    No, I blame creos for pontificating about things that they show themselves to be amazingly ignorant on.
     
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