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Featured The biogeographic evidence for evolution

Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by Hubert Farnsworth, Sep 7, 2019.

  1. nPeace

    nPeace Well-Known Member

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    All that long talk get's us nowhere . Your thread is broken. Can you fix it?
     
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    nPeace Well-Known Member

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    You read that as a complaint? Brilliant.
     
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    I need to remind you once again that since you do not understand the nature of evidence you are in no position to state what a judge would do.

    Why are you afraid to even discuss the topic of evidence?
     
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    It was much more polite than to call it what it is.
     
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  5. nPeace

    nPeace Well-Known Member

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    Are we discussing this OP?
     
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    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    I read it as you griping about the op, the law and @ImmortalFlame in a sad attempt to divert from the fact.
     
  7. Jose Fly

    Jose Fly Fisker of men

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    Sure.

    Basically, the concept of biogeography dictates that if two organisms share a common ancestor, this should be reflected in their historical geographic ranges. We can test and confirm this through the fossil record.

    An example: Let’s say species B and species C both originated from species A millions of years ago. In the time since the split, species B has migrated to another continent. The prediction of past biogeography states that as we go back in time through the fossil record, the geographic ranges of species B and C should become closer and closer until the two overlap around the time of the evolutionary split.

    So, is this what we see in humans and primates?

    Absolutely! Morphological analysis first suggested that our closest relatives are the great apes. This has been confirmed to an astounding degree by genetic analysis. Well, great apes are found only on the continent of Africa; so given the prediction described above, where would we go to find our oldest fossil links to other great apes? Charles Darwin predicted this over 100 years ago….

    We are naturally led to enquire, where was the birthplace of man at that stage of descent when our progenitors diverged from the Catarrhine stock? The fact that they belonged to this stock clearly shews that they inhabited the Old World; but not Australia nor any oceanic island, as we may infer from the laws of geographical distribution. In each great region of the world the living mammals are closely related to the extinct species of the same region. It is therefore probable that Africa was formerly inhabited by extinct apes closely allied to the gorilla and chimpanzee; and as these two species are now man's nearest allies, it is somewhat more probable that our early progenitors lived on the African continent than elsewhere." (Darwin 1871, p. 161)​

    Was Mr. Darwin correct in his prediction? Of course! Later species of hominids (H. erectus, H. heidelbergensis, H. neandertalensis, and H. sapiens) are found outside of Africa. But the farther we move back in time, we find that the older species (early Homo species, the australopithecines, and earlier specimens) are found exclusively within Africa, where we also find the great apes. This is exactly as we would predict under human/ape shared ancestry.
     
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    Thank God for Christianity. We behave ourselves rather than say what's on our minds.
    Are you still wasting time?
     
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    nPeace Well-Known Member

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    Well it seem clear no one has anything useful to say, except this guy, who gave them a chance.
    So enjoy your babbling. I'm out of here. Peace out.
     
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    Discussing your post. But if you want to discuss the OP a knowledge of the concept of evidence would be extremely helpful.
     
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    Oh, by the way. Just some friendly advice. Join the Christians and get rid of some of that anger and hatred. Gee.
     
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    Please, if you "behaved yourself" we would not have all of this trouble.

    When I make an error, and I have made more than my share, I do acknowledge it and then guess what? The conversation moves on.
     
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    I think that you have the wrong group in mind.
     
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    And then one day you too can refer to people with different skin colors as different species, and then when you're called on it you can act like it's everyone else's issue. :rolleyes:
     
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    Oh my, more breaking of the Ninth Commandment.
     
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    No anger or hatred. Mostly amusement that there is no acknowledgement of a clear mistake. You could simply say that you misspoke in your post and everything would have blown over. But, by being unwilling or unable to admit to an error, you compound the problem.

    Different skin color does not make different species.
     
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    This reminded me of a phone call to the Atheist Experience, which unfortunately I could not dig up, where the caller asked "Does evolution say that black people evolved from a different monkey". Unfortunately for him his ignorance of the theory of evolution was indicative of his own racism.
     
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    Sorry. Your offer has become overly monotonous, and I already discussed what evidence is with you.
    We got no where. No need to repeat those dramas.
    That doesn't make sense to you, does it?
     
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    I don't think you display anger and hatred. I find you are quite decent. A bit stubborn, but I can live with that. :)

    I already explained to you, my example was not referring to species. When we use examples, they are to show something, not necessarily the same as talking about the particular.

    I can use cars as an example about birds. I did not say the car is a bird.
    It would be stupid to argue that I said that. Agreed?
     
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    Good. I made no error, and I am not in court. I'm really tolerating this.
     
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