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Featured The biogeographic evidence for evolution

Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by Hubert Farnsworth, Sep 7, 2019.

  1. nPeace

    nPeace Well-Known Member

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    Sorry. If I use an example, it has nothing to do with language.
    If one does not understand how the example applies, there is always room for getting clarity.
    Assuming and being wrong, is not a dreadful thing. Claiming that one is not prone to mistakes because they are so educated, and an expert on everything, is, imo.
     
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    You wouldn't understand that either.
     
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    :facepalm:
     
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    @Skwim got a point.
    I guess the thread has nowhere else to go, as it is pointless - a pointless point. :D
     
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    Actually that sort of thing is prohibited here. I've been dinged twice for it.

    Dude, that's every interaction with creationists ever. They come into a thread, make assertions, and then dodge and evade all attempts to get them to back them up. Eventually they leave and go to another thread (or forum) and make the same assertions all over again.
     
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    Jose Fly Fisker of men

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    Apparently we cannot assume that creationists are using standard language when they post.

    Too bad I lost my magic decoder ring. :rolleyes:
     
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    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    You mean you have no idea and are scared to admit it.
     
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    Still a direct quote whether you want to run away from it or not.
     
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    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    If we lower the bar for you any further, we will have to take bids from an excavation crew to dig the new site for the bar.
     
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    Have a good day... ma'am. :)
     
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    Typical.
     
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    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    I won't be commenting on the running away.
     
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    Or how it is done with such a flourish to imply that it is justified and the fault lies with others.
     
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    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    Hard to see why Acts 17:26 provides any support for a Creationist perspective, since it speaks only of humans.

    It is true, actually, that humans all around the world have less genetic difference than chimpanzees living in just their home territories in Africa. Pan Troglodytes comes in 5 variants, P. T. Verus, P. T. Troglodytes, P. T. Ellioti, P. T. Scweinfurthii, and P. T. Marungensis, and they have more genetic variability between them than do the Swahilis in southern Africa and the blondes of northern Europe or the Inuit of northern Canada.

    And Acts 17:26 doesn't even begin to contemplate that millions of other plant and animal species on our planet, and how they can actually be mapped (something Darwin didn't know) showing how the same plant that once inhabited a small geographic area in Gondwana, that eventually split apart to become the known continents. This plant, a giant fern called "glossopteris," along with 3 other known fossils, mesosaurus, cynognathus and Lystrosaurus are all now found in fossil form various distant areas of the world. Glossopteris is found in S. America, S. Africa, S. India, Australia and Antartica. Cyngnathus is found in fossilized form in central S. America and central Africa.

    From that, you can learn the rest for yourself, but this is, to anyone willing to actually look at it, incredibly compelling evidence supporting both evolution and the theory of continental drift.
     
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    Acts 17, is enough to answer the question.
    If you want details for everything, then Genesis 1 is where you want to look.
    I didn't think I would need to go into that, as the point I was addressing - How did different species spread to other parts of the world - was made in Acts.
    Would you like details on how seeds spread, and where seeds came from? See Genesis.
     
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    So you have nothing except biblical assertions without any support of evidence.

    I did not see that coming.
     
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    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    I guess once you know the Bible, there's nothing else worth knowing...in the search for happiness, one must never forget that old saw "ignorance is bliss."
     
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    Then once again I point out to you, you have utterly failed in what you thought to do. Acts refers to human beings -- and only human beings. And the plain, simple truth is this -- humans are one (count them, one, 1, not 0 or 2) species. And so Acts 17 does absolutely nothing of the kind.

    I confess, it seems obvious to me that, as other posters have suggested, you think that there are various "species" of human, but no, I'm afraid you are completely wrong. The Hutus are every bit as human as the Tutsis, and even Donald Trump is every bit as human as Robert Mugabe, now deceased.
     
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    It is difficult for members of some sects to look beyond it when sect doctrine discourages education and provides their views for them.
     
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    Just so. I'm still waiting to hear from the YECs how before the Flood the lemurs got to the Ark in the middle East from Madagascar, the capybaras from Brazil, the kiwis from New Zealand, the echidnas from Australia ─ and not only how they respectively got home afterwards, but why they're not presently found anywhere in the Levant, indeed in Africa-Eurasia. After all, the Flood happened in 2349 BCE, and since then the hyrax (to take a Levant example) hasn't gone anywhere.

    (The usual YEC explanation is magic, but since no one seems to know how magic works, the explanation explains nothing.)
     
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