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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by sooda, Feb 26, 2019.

  1. JJ50

    JJ50 Active Member

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    Oh dear what silly nonsense!
     
  2. sooda

    sooda Well-Known Member

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    Actually, its supposed to be good news and encouragement. Jesus won. The people of the first century understood the symbolism.. we don't so much..

    Definition of apocalypse


    1a : one of the Jewish and Christian writings of 200 b.c. to a.d. 150 marked by pseudonymity, symbolic imagery, and the expectation of an imminent cosmic cataclysm in which God destroys the ruling powers of evil and raises the righteous to life in a messianic kingdom
     
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    I reckon Jesus might have existed, but the stories created around the guy were mythical. Virgins don't give birth and people don't resurrect once dead.
     
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    MJFlores John 15:19

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    I would appreciate if you could show the whole context of the Binding of Satan because later on he will be freed for a short time - after a thousand years.

    Revelation 20:1-7 New International Version (NIV)
    And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

    I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

    When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison

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    See? The story has a sequel.
    Satan will be out of prison after the thousand year sentence is over.
     
  7. sooda

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    I can sympathize.. I think the gospel writers were gilding the Lily.. I find it very hard to believe he walked on water.. I do believe that he was a holy man and an enlightened thinker.
     
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    The Biblical god should be exterminated.
     
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    EtuMalku MERCURÆN LUCIFERIAN

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    Where is this evidenced that the 'war' took place after Yeshua's physical demise?
    We are all 'spiritual' before and after our physical/objective form.
    How is my point innacurate if Yeshua is physically dead, but Satan (who was never physically manifest) remains alive and well as the Lord of this World?
     
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    Satan is a symbol connected to law; tree of knowledge of good and evil is law. When the brain makes memories, emotional tags are added to the sensory content, by aspects of the limbic system in the center of the brain. Our memories has both sensory content as well as feeling tags. This is established science.

    Law is a unique and an unnatural form of memory. Law, since it defines good and evil causes the brain to attach two conflicting feelings to the same memory; good;rest and evil;fear. These two conflicting feeling for a memory is not natural. This is why law has to be forced on people with threats of punishment. It does not come natural, but requires force and fear to induce this unnatural state.

    The animal brain; human brain, will internally attempt to resolve these conflicting feelings, often by repressing the dark side and accepting ourselves as part of the good side. This repression of half the memory leads to the damming of brain energy. The result is the unconscious mind takes over the repressed side, trying to make it conscious.

    The preacher, who tries to be perfect, often becomes the victim of impulse. He may preach monogamy but have an impulse for hookers. This is connected to these internal dynamics induced by law. The repressed side of law starts to gain an autonomy, in an attempt to make it conscious and restore balance trying to be too perfect instead of complete.

    The leftist who is sincerely trying to make the world better, often ends up attacking people, because they wear a hat. The dark side of their harsh law, has to vent to become conscious. Satan is symbolic of these unconscious dynamics, which are being used by the brain, to lower potential and remove the repression induced by law. Satan is real and is a type of unnatural subroutine that forms.

    Satan being bound and chained; Satan subroutine being disrupted, for 1000 years would be possible if we did away with law and lived by faith. Satan being released again, is connected to law making a come back, restoring the repression, so the subroutine gains potential and becomes active.
     
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    So your god who is supposedly all loving and benevolent, thought it was a good idea to take the very embodiment of evil and set it loose among his children he supposedly loves so dearly?

    Sounds pretty irresponsible and not loving or benevolent at all...
     
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    Neither Satan nor the Devil are mentioned in Genesis.
     
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    The war in heaven takes place in Revelation 12:5. Everything before that, including Jesus' death, mentioned at Revelation 5:9 takes place before the war in heaven.

    No we aren't.

    Because Jesus existed in spirit form, as a spirit creature before and after coming to earth as a man. He is Michael, the arch angel.
     
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    Earthling David Henson
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    Wow. Imagine that!
     
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    I must apply xenoview's razor to your claims
    of god, Jesus, Satan, and Angels.

    Xenoview's razor
    Objective claims requires objective evidence
     
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    What objective evidence do you have that Jesus existed?
     
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    What objective evidence do you have that your god and satan are real?
     
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    Earthling David Henson
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    That isn't relevant, what I said was accurate according to the Bible so it applies whether it's fictional or literal.
     
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    You do realize there is a difference between apocrypha and apocalypse? They are not related. Apocryphal books are simply books that were not included in the canon of scripture. They may or may not have anything to do with apocalyptic themes, which are about the ends times and doom and gloom stuff.

    So linking to Early Christians Writings site is only showing how many other types of non-canonical writings there were as part of early Christianity. I only think a small handful of those may have be apocalyptic. Fun fact about Revelation. Did you know how many early church fathers argued against the book being including in the canon of scripture?

    Frankly, it should have been excluded. But it served a useful tool to be able to interpret to decry whoever political entity of the day one wanted to demonize, so it got voted in against the wishes of many. Just look at the nonsense readings of it that have happened over the millenia! You really think your modern reading is any better? :)
     
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    Prove that Jesus is Michael.
     
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