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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by nPeace, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. nPeace

    nPeace Well-Known Member

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    Verses? What are you talking about... verses? Keep deflecting. No problem.
     
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    Now you are just making up stuff. So here is your opportunity to support your claim. Show me please, how you know "someone claim[ed] centuries after a book is written out of faith statements and belief".
     
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    No need to be rude. If you actually have facts then you should gladly post them.

    And accusing others of your sin is not wise. Your deflection was obvious. I asked for facts first since you claimed them.
     
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    Thats the only evidence you have given to any kind of authorship to the gospel of john which you were discussing so far. What other evidence have you given? You have only given patristic claims. Nothing else.
     
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    nPeace Well-Known Member

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    Here we go again.
    When you can't find anything, you resort to this.
    About the last three pages, I have posted those fact. If you could have refuted them, the posts could not have missed you... and I don't think they did.
    You just were silent.
    Now you want me to go find them for you? To prove what... that I have nothing better to do, than waste time, responding to persons that ignore what they can't find something valid with which they can respond?
    Sorry, No.
     
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    So you can't support your claim. I already know that, because you made it up. It's not true.
    Why resort to that sort of action? Is that honesty?
     
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    What claim?
     
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    You could have stated that they were in the last three pages at a bare minimum. But reading some of the posts that disagree with you it appears that you may not have presented facts but only opinions instead..

    Can you please tell me your best fact?
     
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    What!? Did you not say these words... "someone claim centuries after a book is written out of faith statements and belief".?
     
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    No. Take your pick from any one.
     
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    Oh. this again. This is the so called "My Claim" you are on about?

    Let me spell it out.

    Your so called "Scholarly Criticism" and "Scholarly evidence" have only been what some one claimed centuries after a book is written.

    You wish me to say that again? You quote Patristic claims. Or did you not unnderstand what that means
     
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    i could not find any.
     
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    Oh. You were referring to scholars. Cool.
    I am 100% with you on that. I don't know whom you heard on this thread, refer to something as "Scholarly evidence", or claim that scholarly criticism was evidence. LOL.
    I hope you are eager to apply that to modern scholars with consensus, as well. Love it. :laughing:

    LOL. Patristic claims? They are better, and more credible than any claim you can make, some 2,000 years after. :laughing:
    So why did you start with this pointless exercise then?
    Why make a statement that you know is totally moot - a 20th century claim, and then follow through with a series of questions leading to... 'This is not evidence.'

    This is so funny.
     
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    No problem. When... or if you do, you can respond.
    I have to respond to @Nimos post. It's long overdue.
     
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    I did respond. I looked and couldn't find anything that looked like evidence to me.
     
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    I didnt make any claims. I have been asking evidence for your claims.

    Or did you not unnderstand that statement as well??
     
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    Haha. I said that since your claim which you never ever gave any kind of evidence other than "claims". Claim is not evidence. A claim is a claim.

    Alright, so you wish to know the evidence for two things.

    1. Gospel of John was written 7 decades after Jesus
    2. No one knows the author

    Do you wish to?
     
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    Sure. Be my guest.
     
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    Nope. I dont wish to be a guest anywhere.

    Just be a decent human being and speak like a gentleman.

    If this is what you are looking for as evidence I will give you. Just say it. Have some character.
     
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